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What was the first year Gallardo that Audi "sorted"

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  1. ferraristyle1

    ferraristyle1 Formula Junior

    Aug 2, 2013
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    Starting to look at the Gallardos. But I want to get a car with the heavy influence of Audi.

    2004 is out as I would never again buy a first model year car.

    So 2005 up or should I just start the search at 2006?

    Probably going to pick up a pre LP car as LP cars are a little out of my price range right now.

    Any comments would be appreciated. Thank you.
     
  2. marlonbvm

    marlonbvm Karting

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    I think 07-08 is when you start getting into the very solid ones.
     
  3. They are all pretty good. 05 had a shorter first gear (easier on the clutch) & a lift system.
     
  4. We are overdue for a Gallardo buyers thread. Ed's list is a good start.
    Lamborghini Gallardo Buyer?s Guide | Ed Bolian

    Evolution of the Gallardo over the Years

    Posted on December 30, 2011
    MY 2004
    First cars released. 492 HP 5.0 L V10. Transparent Engine Bonnet Released late as option

    MY 2005
    Front end lift made standard

    MY 2006
    Power increased to 520, gear ratios shortened, shift software improved and pressure increased, Navigation and Backup Camera offered as options, Carbon Interior and Callisto Wheels released as an option.
    Limited Edition “SE” Produced – 250 numbered units worldwide
    Spyder Released

    MY 2007
    Comfort Package released, Q-Citura Stitching became an option, Carbon II and travel package (cup holder) released as options.
    Limited Eition “Nera” Produced – 185 produced
    Spyder Produced

    MY 2008
    Matte Paints released, slight improvement to shift software on E-Gear cars
    Spyder Produced
    Superleggera released with lightweight components, extensive use of Carbon Fiber, 530 HP, revised suspension and exhaust, etc.

    MY 2009
    LP560-4 Revision of the Gallardo – new front and rear bumpers, new quarter panel design, new headlights and tail lights, new 5.2 L V10 with 560 HP, new AWD System, New E-Gear hardware and software, more options. Coupe only for US Production. Apollo wheels standard with Callisto and Cordelia wheels optional.
    Very low number of Spyders produced as press cars for dealer and magazine demonstrations

    MY 2010
    LP560-4 Produced only as a Spyder.
    LP550-2 Valentino Balboni produced with White/Gold stripe on interior and exterior – 250 units
    5 2010 LP570-4 Press Cars were produced for magazines, television, and dealer displays (2 Yellow, 2 White, 1 Black)

    MY 2011
    LP560-4 Produced as Coupe and Spyder, new headrest design for all models
    LP550-2 added as standard production model
    LP550-2 Bicolore released in limited quantity – 250 produced. Option package – Black Roof, Transparent Bonnet, Leather Package I, Branding Package, Style Package, E-Gear.
    LP570-4 Superleggera added with same changes as in 2008
    LP570-4 Superleggera Blancpain Released as tribute to commemorate Super Trofeo partnership
    LP570-4 Performante (Superleggera Spyder) Released – each US dealer received 1 MY 2011 DEMO

    MY 2012
    LP550-2 Coupe produced, Spyder added
    LP560-4 Coupe and Spyder Produced
    LP570-4 Superleggera and Performante produced
    LP570-4 Super Trofeo Stradale produced in limited quantity – 150 numbered units
     
  5. More from his site.

    Lamborghini Gallardo Pre Purchase Inspection (PPI) Checklist

    Posted on December 29, 2011
    I get asked a lot what to look out for when purchasing a pre-owned Gallardo. I have owned 2 of them and sold dozens so I wanted to put together a list of questions that any informed buyer should ask before placing a deposit on a car or committing to a purchase. We advise that you always make sure that a car has been inspected by an authorized dealer prior to your purchase. We run all of our cars through the shop to make sure that they are up to spec and up to date on service. Here are the additional items you should make sure to check on/ask

    Check the CARFAX and/or AutoCheck on the car – this sounds cheesy but you need to know. We make them free to download on our site for anything in inventory but it is one way to tell if the car has been in an accident or has a title issue. A clean CARFAX is by no means a guarantee that the car is clean, but a bad one is a pretty good indicator that something happened.
    Ask for service records – consistent fluid changes and inspections are critical on these cars. Gallardos can burn a liter of oil every thousand miles so if the car has not been serviced routinely it could have been run with very low oil levels which can cause bottom end engine issues.
    Get a LARA Report/E-Gear snap performed – This will not be available on a manual car but the computer can tell you on a percentage basis how much of the clutch is remaining. A clutch replacement will cost $5-8k depending on what else is done at the same time. The second half of the clutch will wear faster than the first. The LARA Report will also let you know if the car has been launched or had any transmission misuse which would indicate abuse. The clutch disk on a manual clutch can be visually inspected by a dealer to determine the approximate wear. Beware of aftermarket or re-manufactured clutches. OEM Gallardo clutches are sold as a balanced kit with the flywheel. R8 Clutches and other aftermarket clutches are sold as individual parts. If they are improperly balanced or installed you can have premature wear and other negative effects. Since the cost of a clutch replacement is usually 30-50% labor, the risk of installing a potential inferior product is fairly high.
    Check for oil leaks – Early cars are prone to oil leaking around the oil pan and the rear main seal. Make sure that this is checked. On my 04′s I usually ended up replacing them every other clutch.
    Check the wheels and tires – Tire life will depend on how the car is used but will likely average around 10,000 miles for rears and 15,000 miles for the fronts. Gallardos are extremely sensitive to tire issues. If the pressure in one of the rears is just a few pounds low you may experience a significant amount of pulling and twisting under acceleration or throttle life. Depending on the level of tire that you use, you will see costs for replacement between $1,500-2,500 for the cars. We strongly recommend the use of Pirelli tires on the cars. Many of the other brands, even if the sizes are identical, have different rolling diameters and can cause differential problems. The leading cause of differential problems though, are aftermarket wheels. We certainly understand the motivation to customize and modify your car to your own personal taste but because of the way that Lamborghini AWD systems work, if you alter the rolling diameter ratio from front to rear, the system will experience a rolling resistance that feels like braking upon takeoff. This will result in premature clutch wear and slippage as well as differential wear.
    Check alignment via tire wear – If the tire wear is not symmetrical, it is likely a sign that the alignment is off. You are more likely to see the inside of the tires wear faster because some camber is built into the suspension design but if there is a huge gap in wear, you will need to have an alignment performed. I usually have the car aligned every other set of tires.
    Check the differentials and clutch by driving – If you apply a significant amount of steering lock in either direction and slowly feed in the throttle, you should not experience a significant amount of differential binding in the front and the clutch should disengage quickly. It will take a bit longer than disengagement in a straight line but it should be fully disengaged by 2,000 RPM.
    Check for paint work – While the paint match between panels may not be perfect from the factory, a glaring mismatch is a strong indicator of paint work. Check the door jams and hinges for any signs of shoddy paint work or repairs. They are often the areas that get the least attention from a body shop. Also, run your fingers along the edges of the hood, doors, and panels.
    Be careful with aftermarket exhausts – It is common to change out the exhausts on exotic cars. That can have some benefits in top end power and sound but it often comes at a cost. There are two valve systems in a Gallardo exhaust. The first opens at startup to clear everything out and the second opens around 4,000 RPM to enhance the noise and power. If the second valve system is disabled, the car will not have as much anticipated back pressure at low speed/low RPM. This will cause a lag in takeoff and increase the range over which the clutch slips, causing premature wear.
    Check for heat damage around the rear of the car – It is not the end of the world but heat damage to the rear bumper, side marker lights, and tail lights on Gallardos is extremely common. Check for inoperative market lights and hairline cracks around the lights. It is very common to see some dimpling of the rear panel behind the Lamborghini script logo causing the badge to buckle.
    Check for any error lights – This is an obvious one but pay attention to any lights on the dash. The Check Engine lights in Gallardos are fairly sensitive and have a variety of triggers. It is important to know what a problem is prior to purchase for emissions inspections.
    Check the brakes – look to make sure that there is a good amount of pad left under the calipers and run your finger outward on the rotor to check for a lip at the edge of the rotor. This can cause brakes squealing. Typical Gallardo brake life is approximately 30k miles. You will usually replace pads and rotors each time (might skip rear rotors in some cases). This will run around $3k.
    Watch out for aftermarket stereos – the factory radios are pretty weak, we know that, particularly on the 04-05 cars. Replacing them is not a terrible thing, you just have to be careful. If you put additional speakers behind the seats, the magnetism can hurt the ECUs which ride there. If you wire the system in poorly, you can cause draws that will drain the batteries very quickly.
    Check the VIN – The engines of the first 1,500 cars were built in a different location and are a bit prone to rod bearing issues. It is still worth owning them, you just need to be more mindful of oil levels, abuse, and a modifications.
    Check the interior – Anyone browsing eBay can tell that seat bolster wear is a common affliction of early Gallardos. It is more a cosmetic than functional issue but a worn out interior makes a car a tough sell.
    Check for rock chips and front end scrapes. The cars are low and the front end lift did not come out until 05 so check for scrapes and cracks on the underside of the front bumper. It is a good idea to keep a clear bra on the cars to protect from rock chips. The paint, particularly the 3 layer pearlescent paints are tough to match so not having to respray is a good thing.
    Listen to the engine and transmission – you will hear the transmission pump prime when you open the driver’s door on an e-gear car. You will also hear it when you come to a stop or whenever the system feels it needs pressure. If you do not drive them frequently it can be difficult to tell if the noise is lasting too long or happening too frequently. Any valve tick or knock is serious on a Gallardo. If it sounds strange, figure out why before proceeding.
    Watch the oil pressure – it should develop at least 4-6 bar pressure under acceleration and not drop below 1 bar at idle. On 20k mile plus cars we recommend running a thicker oil to help bolster oil pressure but low pressure can quickly cause problems.
    Shift at varying throttle inputs and speeds on a test drive. If the car shifts peculiarly it can be a sign of the hydraulic shift pressure dropping. This is bad. A shift actuator is a rare part to fail but it is about a $15k replacement.
    Press the buttons – quickly after startup turn on the headlights, activate the turn signals, and turn of the traction control. Gallardos are occasionally prone to electrical errors developing from bad grounds, low voltage, and failures in the slip ring within the steering column.
    Watch your Mirrors – The windshield mounted rear view mirrors are extremely prone to leaking. The auto dimming fluid in the mirror breaks down over time and you will start to notice some movement of the fluid within the face of the mirror. As soon as you start to see this, or ideally before, you should replace it with a non-dimming mirror. This should be less than $150.
    Good Whistle/Bad Whistle – the architecture of the intake system can frequently cause a whistle, particularly under acceleration when the engine is cold. This is not a problem and will likely be exhibited in some form on any Gallardo. It is usually OK to ignore an RPM based whistle. If there is a whistle that begins or changes significantly during a shift it could be an indication of a worn throw out bearing.
    Recognize the learning capability of the E-Gear System – It is not uncommon for a Gallardo that has sat for a while or been driven in traffic to shift and drive very poorly. It happens because the clutch position sensors get disoriented and do not engage and disengage the clutch smoothly. If you drive the car properly and hard for a few miles most of the time they will reset and drive beautifully.
    Know the cars and know the market – There have been nearly 12,000 Gallardos built since 2003 and they have changed a lot over the years. Know the differences from year to year. I will repost my “Evolution of the Gallardo Model” guide tomorrow and a good idea of where prices are today after that. Keep in mind that some cars can have over $80,000 in options and will deviate considerably from standard pricing.
    Enjoy the process – shopping for an exotic car is a lot of fun and a great learning experience. Ask a lot of questions, consult people who you know are knowledgeable and find the best car that fits your budget. The end result of a properly executed buying process will be many years and many miles of happy motoring.
     
  6. Carnut

    Carnut F1 Rookie

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    2004 cars were lighter (and when you take off the stupid exhaust system you can save another 50 pounds) and when you convert them to RWD they are amazing cars to drive. I could not stand it in AWD, and the steering wheel on the early cars was terrible so I changed that and the paddles to. In fact I ended up changing a lot of things on that car.
     
  7. Russ Gould

    Russ Gould Formula 3

    Nov 8, 2004
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    Has anyone looked at that burn car up for auction in Las Vegas?
     
  8. Russ Gould

    Russ Gould Formula 3

    Nov 8, 2004
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    How big a deal is it to do the rwd conversion?
     
  9. norcal2

    norcal2 F1 Veteran

    And swap out the seats, they are heavy also due to the side air bags..later production number 2004 cars are good, mine was a later model and sold in 2005 and has had minimal issues...

     
  10. Carnut

    Carnut F1 Rookie

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    Not that hard though took a few times to get the suspension adjusted right. It really does transform the car though.
     
  11. Russ Gould

    Russ Gould Formula 3

    Nov 8, 2004
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    I too dislike the heavy looking steering wheel and I am not a fan of paddles ... so what I want to end up with is a 2wd stick shift coupe without nav, heated seats and all that sissy stuff. Should I just buy a 550-2 or can one buy a 2004 4wd stick shift coupe, dump the AWD, and get to the same end result for less money? Seems to me that it's not as simple as disconnecting the drive shafts for the front wheel drive.
     
  12. jollygood

    jollygood Formula 3

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    This is just an excellent post. Cudos to you and the original author!
     
  13. Carnut

    Carnut F1 Rookie

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    It was years ago when I did this conversion, and there maybe a few details I forgot but I do remember it really was not that difficult and I do not use traction controls so I was not concerned that it might not work the same way it did in AWD. This was not the first time I had turned an AWD drive into RWD (two 996tt's). I also pulled the wheel (replaced it with the newer flat bottom one), and I would say definitely get a 3 pedal car, the egear was no picnic. One day Algar got in a Gallardo and I brough mine over and one of the guys drove it back to back and he only had one word after he had driven the one they had and mine, and that was WOW. This was way before the RWD came out so this was the first time he ever experienced the car in RWD. When I compared the two cars, my first thought was who would ever want to drive that thing. To each his own, though I have noticed the early cars have come up in price from a couple years ago.
     
  14. Thank you.

    Somewhat interesting is that the first few 2004 Gallardos were built in Polland. I don't know if this means anything lower on build quality...so it would be interesting to know a little more. Vin number 000 through 425.
     
  15. Carnut

    Carnut F1 Rookie

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    If I am not mistaken there were some issues with the early ones, mine was in the 600's and I never had any problems.
     
  16. white out

    white out Formula 3

    Mar 3, 2010
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    A lot of good info posted above. Personally, I would go '06+ if shopping pre-LP. But '04 is a fine year.
     
  17. Mr Mezzanotte

    Mr Mezzanotte Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2006
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    The body shells of all Gallardo's, and also I think the first few hundred cars were built at the Audi Ingolstadt factory. This is Audi's headquarters and their biggest factory.
     

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