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What is exactly a 612 OTO ?

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  1. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    I have a not-so-bad Knowledge about modern Ferraris, but there is one thing that remains a little mysterious for me.

    The 612 OTO. A did some research, but I coudn't find the exact definition of a 612 OTO.

    I have read that those are 612's featuring the One-to-one programm, some specific features like paints or leather.

    But,

    The "one to one' programm seems to be dead and replaced by the "Atelier"

    Almost all the 612 OTO I have seen on the net do not feature a specific Atlelier Feature.

    So, What is excactly an OTO.

    Thanks !!!
     
  2. donv

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    It was the mid-run update to the 612. Similar to the 456M vs. the 456GT.

    Basically, the changes were the 599 clutch and transmission, the glass roof, standard CCB brakes, manettino, Bose audio system, slightly different display on the dash, cruise control (optional), Bose Media system, and probably some other things I'm forgetting.

    Some of these features were introduced earlier, and most of them were on the Sessanta.
     
  3. southnc

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    #3 southnc, Aug 24, 2014
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    The Bose Media System was already available on generation 1 cars, sometime in 07.

    OTO stands for ONE-TO-ONE Personalization. This allowed customers to personalize the car to a degree - in particular, the interior elements.

    I believe the OTO cars also came with the new 20" challenge wheels as well.

    However, the big difference - as already mentioned - was the new transmission with manettino switch and start button on the steering wheel.
     
  4. dcmetro

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    Thanks Dony ! you made it clear for me , that's a mid-life update for the 612 Chassis.

    But Adam, what you said is exactly what I don't understand. Why calling it "One to one" if the purpose of the 612 OTO is a mid life update and not related to personnalization.

    The majority of the 612 OTO have standard colors for the interior and the exterior.


    I think The meaning of the acronym OTO has changed during the years.


    At the very beginning it was the name of Ferrari's personnalization program. That name was later dropped in favor of "Ferrari Atelier"

    However , the name was kept to call the Ferrari 612M 612 OTO


    Terry , M-Individual , Marcel Massini your thoughts are welcome.
     
  5. greyboxer

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    Previous threads also mention an engine type change to F133H which may just equate to an upgraded Motoronic system
     
  6. Piper

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    Also sport exhaust standard.
     
  7. tazandjan

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    DC- All OTOs were special ordered. Ferrari stopped pushing 612s to the dealers sometime in CY 07 and each had to have a buyer before Ferrari would build it. So it really was a one to one experience and most used an atelier because the OTOs were the most expensive cars Ferrari sold at that time.

    Incidentally, the 612 did not have a 599 transmission, it had a 599 transmissione case (with 612 innards and gear ratios) to match up with the twin plate 599 clutch. It did, however, have the F1 Superfast system with minimum shift time of 100 ms, reduced to approximately 85 ms for the HGT2 package. So for over a year, OTO 612s with the HGT2 package shifted more quickly than the 599. Changed in CY 09 with the introduction of the 599 HGTE.
     
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  8. Nospinzone

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    It was related to personalization. From the 2008 612 brochure-

    The 612 Scaglietti is dedicated to you. It’s the car that will grant your every wish, make your every desire come true. Create something special for yourself. Choose every last detail of your 612 Scaglietti. Express yourself, put your own stamp on it and you will be the owner of a genuinely once-off car that truly reflects the real you. Only the 612 Scaglietti can deliver that dream in the exclusive Atelier in Maranello, thanks to the Ferrari talents and experience. And it’s all made possible by the fact that each owner is unique. Just like each 612 Scaglietti.

    And isn't it nice to know all us 612 drivers are unique! :)
     
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  9. dcmetro

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    100% Clear Now. Thanks Terry.
     
  10. Piper

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    That's the first I'd heard the f1 superfast in the 612 wasn't the same innards as the 599 f1 system.
     
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  12. dcmetro

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    Yes I care ! interesting ! the sticker is huge... almost the price of a GTO

    Never understood How the 612 could be more expensive than the GTB while having an engine belonging to the 550/456/575 era... that makes no sense.

    The 6.0 found in the GTB is belongs to the next generation
     
  13. Piper

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    It does, but the 540hp of the 612 motor is plenty. Can't even finish 2nd before letting up. More is actually a little less fun.
     
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    The 612 is a 540hp Beast , there is no doubt about that.

    I just think it would have been more logical for the More recent, more powerful 620hp 6.0 beast to be slightly more expensive...
     
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    Prefer the 612 over a FF in looks, the 612 is a classic GT car and has very beautiful proportions.
     
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    Yeah, FF is something else. I'd be lying if I said I disliked it now as much as I did, but it's still really hard for me to accept that a shooting brake was really necessary.
     
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    #18 Nospinzone, Aug 24, 2014
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    I guess there are a number of reasons and it is not a surprise to me. Here is the sticker from my 2008.

    What cracks me up is "OTHER OPTIONS" at almost $23,000 aren't significant enough to itemize! :D
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    #19 southnc, Aug 24, 2014
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    If I'm not mistaken, the 612 was the last Dino-engined car. This is the evolution of the engine used in the 550 / 575, and 456. It also has the rubber belts, but is a well-known and well-proven product. Basically, the Dino-derived engines go back 40 years.

    The F430 and 599 were the first to use the newly developed Ferrari-Maserati collaborative engines with chained drive.

    Here is what I think is the recent V12 history of this engine:
    F116B 5474 cc 1992–1996 456
    F116C 5474 cc 1996–1998 456
    F116C 5474 cc 1998–2003 456M
    F133A and F133C 5474 cc 1996–2001 550 Maranello
    F133E 5748 cc 2002–2006 575M Maranello
    F133F 5748 cc 2004–2008 612 Scaglietti
    F133G 5748 cc 2005–2006 Superamerica
    F133H 5748 cc 2008–2011 612 Scaglietti OTO
     
  20. tbuff

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    Is every 612 MY 08 or newer an OTO then?

    Did any of them come with a 6pd? or without CCBs?
     
  21. donv

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    There were a few 612s built in early 08 which were not OTOs. Once they went to the new transmission, that was the end of the manual. Same was true for CCBs-- although I don't think you can find any sort of 2008 Ferrari without CCBs.

    Sometime in 2007, Ferrari announced that CCBs would be standard on all cars.

    Also, the challenge wheels were always an option. My car, for instance, doesn't have them.

     
  22. M-individual

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    DC - I see the other chaps where kind enough to answer all your questions. As to price … I agree. Very expensive and more expensive than the 599. My 599 HGTE was more expensive than my OTO but that is because I optioned the hell out of my HGTE and went kind of "soft" on the 612. All I wanted was a classic spec that goes well with the timeless design of the 612.

    The 612 was the top of the food chain in terms of road going Ferrari's (not when it comes to performance). The 2 + 2's have always been expensive. Look at the FF versus the F12. Same deal.
     
  23. dcmetro

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    "I optioned the hell out of my HGTE"

    ahahahah

    Oh yeah... it will remain unique...
     
  24. tazandjan

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    Adam- If, by Dino engine V12, you mean 65 degree V angle, the chain driven Enzo/599/F12/FF/F150 engines are all also 65 degree Vs and developments of the basic 456 architecture with chains, hydraulic lifters (introduced on the 550), and VVT added. Plus the latest engines also have direct injection.

    Your engine list looks good except for the 456M. Although the 456M WSM says the engine type is Type F116C, like the Motronic 5.2 456s, this is probably a typo, since the 456M engine has a completely different firing order. Not sure what the engine number should really be. Have to ask the 456M owners, who probably will not know either.
     
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