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What is best way to clean a car covered with salt... without a hose?

Discussion in '360/430' started by Race3, Dec 31, 2010.

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  1. Race3

    Race3 Karting

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    I have a new black 430 in the Northeast and after a drive, the wet roads (from melting snow) have left salt on the car. I live in a condo building with a garage, but no hose... so i can't hose it down. What do you think is the best way to clean it? I'm thinking of using a spray bottle with water, to spray and then wipe dry.

    Anyone recommend any other ideas or particular products that I should buy?

    How long does it take for salt to really eat away at the paint?

    Happy New Year and thanks.
     
  2. Jason Crandall

    Jason Crandall F1 Veteran

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    I'd find a hose.
     
  3. Modenafan

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    Agreed. Call a friend who can loan you his driveway and a hose...soon.
     
  4. bmw550i

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    yea dude gotta get that salt off the paint ...need a hose dont wash it with soap and wash cloth until its COMPLETELY rinsed first
     
  5. TravisJ

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    Self serve car wash
     
  6. cf355

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    #6 cf355, Dec 31, 2010
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    More important than the outer paint you need to thoroughly hose down the chassis, wheel wells, ect......I mean totally diluge the car with water , then wash the car with soap....then hose down the car thorougly......that is the only way to get the salt off the underneath of the car.
    Cleaning only the paint is a waste of time if the salt remains underneath.
    Find a friend with a drive and hose or one of those manual car washes. Maybe the condo management will allow you to borrow one of their garage hoses (theres got to be a water tap in the garage for maintenance) to wash your car down?
     
  7. Race3

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    Folks, i appreciate your comments about finding a hose / water outlet. I will if I can, but it's unlikely. However, what is the big concern about the underneath of the car? My other cars get covered in salt, and although I take them thru a car wash on occasion, they seems to hold up pretty well. Is the salt really going to eat thru all the metal under the car (which is mostly sealed in the first place)?

    I certainly care about the car, but I also plan to use it throughout the winter (not during snow storms, but in between them). The dealership will wash it for me, but by the time I get home, it does get some salt on the car (not terrible, but noticeable).

    I simply was wondering if anyone had used a car cleaning product they might recommend that can be sprayed on and wiped off. Perhaps there isn't a good one.

    Thanks regardless, for all those who chimed in.
     
  8. Race3

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    #8 Race3, Dec 31, 2010
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  9. Buxton

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    Think of Salt as small rocks that you'll be dragging across your paint
     
  10. kaamacat

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    In your local area: Do you have one of those car wash services that will come out and wash your car at its location?
     
  12. cb804

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    #13 cb804, Jan 1, 2011
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    I always hand wash my cars. In the winter, I take my daily driver to one of the self serve car washes to rinse off most of the dirt/salt and then hand wash in the garage with Optimum no rinse wash. It's only available online (most details shops and even Amazon). You will need 2 large buckets of water and get some high quality microfiber towels and mitts.

    http://optimumcarcare.com/onrwns.php?li=2

    http://www.amazon.com/32oz-Optimum-Rinse-Wash-Shine/dp/B000E9TS6O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1293896696&sr=1-2
     
  13. Juri

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    Road salt will sometimes contain Calcium Chloride (CaCl2), Magnesium Chloride (MgCl2) Potassium Chloride (KCl) or some combination of any or all of these as well. Not just the Sodium Chloride (NaCl) that we might put put on our tables.
    Therefore, the best way to remove it from any surface (both, underneath the car or from the paint above) is soappy water. If you want to be a bit more sophisticated, purchase a gardening spray adapter with a fluid container attached to it (usually used for spraying fertilizer+insecticides) and fill it with a very miuld solution of baking soda (about 1 small spoonfull per quart) and spray it onto the salt-affected surfaces to dissolve salt deposites before using lots of warm soappy water. The reason to using baking soda is that when thosee salts concentrate they cause a drop in acidity, which causes corrosion. To neutralize it, one needs to neutralize it using base, such as baking soda.
    I used this approach when I lived in NY.
    Cheers.
     
  14. hardtop

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    I would take it to a car wash and blast it off good top and bottom. When I got home I'd use a waterless cleaner to remove spots. Chemicals on the undercarriage are bad.

    Dave
     
  15. cf355

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    One thing that some people forget that rust or oxidation damage DOES NOT start from the outside painted surface but rather the inside and back side of the panels. The wheel wells and undercariage of the car are not sealed and liquified salt finds it way deep into the undercarriage and does its damage.
    Aluminum cars also suffer oxidation from salt exposure so they are not exempt from corrosion. When you put a car through an automated car wash this helps a bit because they have high powered underbody sprayers that wash some of the embedded salt away from the undercarriage but they are not perfect.
    I have 2 vehicles for the winter salt and my F car is stored away from the salt as even one season of salt exposure starts the cancer. Further its easy to identify any car that has been exposed to salt , even if for only 1 season and I for one would not even consider purchasing it. But if you must drive your Ferrari in the salt then you should be prepared to fully deluge the chassis in clean water at least once a week to lessen the damage.
     
  16. Juri

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    Ditto that!
    On note, an oxidized aluminum surface actually protects from oxidation spreading any deeper.
     
  17. SfefVan

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    I fully agree with Chris. As a winter job, I always remove all panels especially all the wheelhouses and underfloor panels. You can't imagine how much dirt I can find there. Last summer, on a mountain road, the road was covered with cow **** (we like cows here in Switzerland :D and farmers like to let their tanks leaking on the roads). Even if my car looked clean after a good wash, when removing all the panels, I could find this cow extriments everywhere. For instance, the carbon filter and vacuum tank was covered of it! So, I can easily imagine how salt can get deep inside and stay there for years, acting slowly but surely...The F430 has so many hidden holes and spaces where salt can get very easily. This is one main reason why the F430 is not conceived for driving on winter roads ;)
     

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