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What have you had to fix on your 360/430 since purchase

Discussion in '360/430' started by ICULUKN, Jan 5, 2019.

  1. imahorse

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    I bought quite the mess. I still have to fix the engine mounts, the backlight, the paint, the dash, clean out the headlights, and various other things. Despite all of that, things still broke even though I prayed to the entropy gods. Now I sacrifice animals to the great horse in the sky. I started out with large rodents like woodchucks and squirrels, but am all the way up to an aardvark now.
     
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  3. Ingenere

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    9 years

    1 clutch
    Immobilizer
    Engine mounts
    Trans cooler

    And of course fluid, filters and belt services.

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  4. 3POINT8

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    Jan 23, 2014
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    2 years - sensor on the up shift
     
  5. gsworld2014

    gsworld2014 Formula 3

    Dec 23, 2014
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    I’m on my car for about four years. When I bought it I did a major service to bring the car to zero. My Bella is a 2005 F430 Spider, red tan. The car was in very nice shape past the PPI but had high mileage. I intentionally bought a car with high mileage as I knew I was going to drive it and would rather someone else pay the depreciation. Since my ownership I have had to do a good bit of repairs but the majority of these repairs stemmed from one issue. There is truly a domino effect when it comes to these cars and probably any car for that matter it’s just more costly with a Ferrari.

    The following is a list of things that were fixed in my opinion it’s due to a throw out bearing and not being changed when the clutch was changed just prior to my ownership. (Major dealer did this clutch work and I have documents, no way throw out bearing was changed, original was in tact and jammed which caused below. (Took a year of issues to show the main issue)

    New f1 hose
    New pump
    Rebuild of f1 solenoid pack
    New clutch (old one had 83% life before it fried)
    E gear solenoid
    New hill throw out bearing


    Not related to clutch issue

    Front main seal
    Rear main seal with clutch change
    Top hydro hose replace (again issue, some where along the line heat sheilds were removed)
    2 top rams rebuilt
    2 coils
    Paint correction (quartz protect)
    Top elastics
    Top cable repair
    One exhaust tail pipe replaced
    Top speed headers installed (ceramic coated)
    4 oil changes, 2 full fluid changes


    Initial purchase
    Full service
    Spark plugs
    Valve cover seals
    Sticky buttons
    2 tires

    Basically the car has had all systems sorted and is in beautiful condition. Just won Platino at palm beach chapter 1st annual Concourso With 98.5 points. Anyone reading this don’t get scared off as if you do not have the money or passion for these cars it’s not smart to own one. I have had a ton of non Ferrari sports cars and would complain about little repairs but with this car these expenses have never phased me.... hard to explain. I will most likely keep this car forever as it is my first Ferrari... I do plan to purchase a another newer one in a few years, but Bella will always be in my garage. She currently has 49600 miles so I do drive! I would never let a car like this sit.

    If you have the means I highly recommend picking one up. Lol.
     
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  6. hardtop

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    Jan 31, 2002
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    I have a 2005 430 3 pedal coupe bought new August, 2005. Now has 29K on it. Headers, rear main seal, engine mounts and exhaust brackets were done under warranty. Nothing since then. The CEL sometimes comes on indicating a faulty air pump that pressurizes the fuel system to check for leakage. This is an emissions part that supposedly costs about $600. So far, the light goes out on its own after a while. I used to track it quite a bit so spent a lot on tires and brakes! Still has the original clutch. I'll probably go with aftermarket headers at some point.

    Dave
     
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  8. 993man

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    I had a 360 3 years ago and got rid of it because of all these comments. Even though I have the means, and passion to own the 360 it got on top of me with the small niggly things.
    It did only ever let me down once though. The F1 pump motor. I fixed it myself, then traded it on my current 997.1 Turbo. 3 years cost of ownership? lets not go there lol.
    BUT, I am still wanting a 430 F1 this year. Once you have experienced these cars you are doomed. Nothing compares.
     
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  9. Bob in Texas

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    Apr 23, 2012
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    08 430...
    Third brake light didn’t operate, new ground fixed it
    Leaking valve cover gaskets replaced


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  10. 24000rpm

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    i've fixed (except usual maintenance items). too many of them, sometimes i can't remember or too lazy or too small a job to list ( i have all fix records)

    CS:

    rough idle---- coil packs
    window pre-drop inop ---- micrometer position inside
    won't start ---- clutch position sensor
    head unit ---- bought a used one
    p0440 ---- evap valves x2
    dash button for trip A/B inop ---- bought a used one
    alarm module --- bought a new one
    silencer box --- bought a used f430 silencer
    brake noise! ----- by driving like crazy on my local track for 10+ laps.
    timing belt --- replaced
    3rd brake light inop ---- clean contact area
    LH front o2 sensor replaced
    new carbon canister
    lots of arm bushing and ball joints
    gas pedal potentiometer p1189 and p1149 --- still working on it.


    Modena 1:
    throw out bearing seals leaking ---- replaced seals only, not the whole throw out bearing
    replaced gearbox upper bushing
    gutted my US version 360's pre-cats --- no cel
    driver door lock replaced
    LH fuel pump replaced
    RH MAF sensor failed --- new one installed
    adjusted inside door lock
    bulbs inside the AC panel
    new alarm module
    new carbon canister
    lots of arm bushing and ball joints

    Modena 2

    replaced gearbox upper bushing
    new oil pressure sender
    both LH and RH fuel pumps
    replaced 1x Upright, its warped somehow
    replaced 1x hand brake caliper on that upright, warped!
    replaced hand brake pads
    new alarm module
    fixed reverse handle on f1 --- hill engineering CNCed.
    replaced timing belts
    new coil packs for misfire
    new carbon canister
    new 2x evap valves
    cam variator solenoid
    lots of arm bushing and ball joints
    MAF failed, both sides, at different times, of course
    engine mounts
    TIG weld a few alum frontal structural parts---- previously collided with a tree in her earlier life.

    Modena 3
    new engine mount
    new gearbox upper bushing
    engine out ---- redo timing ----degree wheel method -- new timing belts & stuff
    2x new variator installed ---- didn't brake camshaft, lucky me
    replaced fuel tanks --- bought used ones
    new fuel pumps , both sides
    replaced evap 2x valves
    new flywheel, new clutch, throw out bearing , all small stuffs inside the bell housing
    new front main seal, rear main seal, new cam seals, new valve cover gasket, new air intake manifold gaskets
    new gas cap
    lots of arm bushings and ball joints
    removed dash and restore wiring under it to OEM. ---- previous owner didn't know what he/she's doing!
    f1 pump motor's wiring was hacked by previous owner ---- restore to OEM
    new vacuum hose from intake mianifold to vacuum tank
    restored instrument cluster to OEM --- previously hacked and was in a messy state of existence!
    cracked windshield ---- aftermarket one installed
    f1 power unit outlet and inlet hoses were not OEM and were leaking ---- installed used OEM hoses.
    oil radiator's big yellow hose into the engine block area leaking oil --- replace gasket
    new cv joint boots
    new dash vent
    bandaid the front windshield wiper fluid reservior---- its not connected to anything!
    3rd brake light --- connector loose
    2x hand brake calipers, stripped special bolt.
    band-aid rear floor cover
    1x MAF failed, new one installed


    360 challenge
    gas pedal potentiometer p1189 and p1149 - clean contact, all good
    one melted vacuum hose from air intake manifold to vacuum tank--- new one installed--- freaking expensive for a hose!
    new wheel lug nuts. lots of them. old ones are cross threaded somehow
    f1 power unit's valve body and all 6 valves
    timing belts
    TCU connector went bad, bought new connector from other marques' car's ecu/tcu, cheap. under 1 dollar.
    LH rear abs sensor wire broken ---- reconnect
    gearbox upper bushing
     
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  11. thehick

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    Apr 18, 2006
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    02 360 Spider F1 37k mi.

    Ball joints & Tie Rod ends
    Various bushings
    Radio upgrade
    Added some carbon bits
    Engine and transmission mounts
    A/C Compressor
    Coil packs
    Clutch (just 1) (Lasted 32k mi)
    CS TCU upgrade
    Removed pre-cats and main cats and replaced with Tubi competizione manifolds and sport cats. (No more worry about pre-cats)
    Door cable.
    Regular normal maintenance. (Annual fluid changes, 3 yr major)
     
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  13. Raconteur

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  14. proggero

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    Apr 18, 2013
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    I have a 2003 360 Modena that was purchased in April 2011 with 10252 miles. The car was in excellent shape at the time of purchase. Since then.....

    Ferrari Cost of Ownership 2011 - 2018

    Date Type of Service Mileage Cost
    Apr-11 Purchase 10252
    10-Feb-12 Battery 115.02
    1-May-12 Fluid Service 11438 1081.11
    25-Oct-12 Door Lock Mechanism 2340
    16-Apr-13 Fluid Service 12480 833.99
    1-Jul-14 Major Service, oil leak 8182.34
    15-Jul-15 Fluid Service, O2 Sensor 14993 2262.97
    25-Jul-16 Fluid Service, Bumper Crack 3483.69
    5-Jul-17 Major Service 16543 5320.93
    24-May-18 Oil leak, engine mount, cam belt, 17536 10245.82
    bearing (Almost all caused by poorly
    performed service by another provider)
    13-Nov-18 Ball joints, rear brakes, tires, and rear sus18050 7200.46

    Total Expense 41066.33
     
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  15. proggero

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    I apologize that my spacing did not hold up when I posted my info.
     
  16. thehick

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    I guess I should have mentioned that it's added up to $37,761.78 in 4 years. Keep in mind that about 70% was maintenance related.
     
  17. ttforcefed

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  18. michaelo

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    Mar 25, 2006
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    2006 430 F1 purchased in late 2016 with 12,000 miles.
    Low mileage does equal low maintenance costs!
    I have spent $14,000 in maintenance during the first two years.
    List of things pretty long. Nothing huge but a lot of irritating small parts failures that
    really shouldn't happen.
    Now I am faced with ball joints and bushings, new aftermarket headers because the OEM
    header's reputation creates too much anxiety to ignore.
    That will be another $7,000.
    These cars are not cheap to run and I am not convinced that they are totally worth it.
    If I were to try and sell this car right now with 16,000 miles on it I will probably lose over $40,000 in two years of ownership.
    Then I get in the damn thing, floor the accelerator, laugh out loud and say to myself, "who cares how much
    it is currently worth!!!!!".
     
  19. Vincent993

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    Sep 8, 2013
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    2004 360 Spider F1 - 26000 kms and 5 years of ownership (now 39000 kms on odometer)

    Nothing to fix during this period except a 2€ drill to fix a minor issue with a top cable and an undertray part (screw issue which didn’t resist to high speed on Italian highway).
    And standard maintenance every year (distribution belt 2 years ago).
    Hoping the next 5 years will be the same! :)
     
  20. tonino ct

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    Mar 1, 2018
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    2004 360 spider
    Bought at 13500 miles now 19000
    at 14000 miles
    Major service
    Change Oils engine breaks and trans.
    flush coolant
    belt tensioner
    timing, water pump,and AC belt
    Cabin and air filters
    Rollover valves ( removing the convertible top)
    Rear breaks
    Spark plugs
    Cams seals
    Total $ 8,500 local Ferrari shop

    Last year At 16500 miles oil and filter change (done by me)

    This year at 19000 miles
    Heat exchanger ( no needed cose robber boot was leaking)
    Robber boots new Clamps
    water pump (also no needed)
    Coolant flush
    Oil and filter change
    Gear box oil change
    Just about $ 2000 only for parts. (also done by me )
     
  21. Snapshift

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    Last edited: Mar 31, 2021
    2005 F430 bought June 2020 with 17k miles. Now 20700 mi. Bought from an exotic used car dealer but i guess I have been lucky compared to many. It had fabspeed headers with mini cats, Paint correction, decent tires 2 yrs old 70%clutch Clean carfax and all major service by Boardwalk, Plano. new F1 pump and hoses,AC hoses and compressor service,All service records. I'm 5th owner. Everything worked. 2 keys tools everything complete.Was good to go. No Sticky buttons.All leather interior with no Bolster cracks or worn spots. No cracks in glass and windows positioned well and seal properly.

    Get it home CEL's started and wouldn't clear for long.

    I have done the following upgrades/improvements
    Upgrade stereo Bluetooth apple play Sat radio Navigation etc,
    PPI film front and sides
    Sound deadening in doors
    Front and rear Cameras
    All new Speakers and amps
    Added a fire extinguisher
    light window tint
    All new 4 wheel ******** brakes rotors and pads with Motul 600 Flush $2600
    Steel Brake lines $100
    Changed most all accessible lights to LED's
    Reinforced Tail light assemblies with repair kits preemptively
    Installed down projecting LED Ferrari logo puddle lights on both doors
    Upgraded custom logo floor mats with mat locks
    Hill engineering Metal Dead pedal
    Ricambi SS Exhaust tips
    FabSpeed header blankets
    Added heat shielding to engine side panels
    Front 3 piece Skid pads under nose.


    Scud ing Swiss improvements:
    LED 4 tail light light conversion
    3rd Brake light conversion to LED
    Smart Turn Signal ECU with LED front Turn signal lights
    LED DRL's on front with remote control and auto on-off
    Smart F1 ECU F1 Relay V3.0
    Smart turn signal ECU
    SEB E Diff bypass With remote
    Replaced PSR7 relay

    Added CTEK Multi Stage charger with charging stand and
    access wire behind drivers seat.
    Changed to Hybrid low profile windshield wipers
    Alignment and wheel balance
    Cigarette lighter voltmeter

    Repairs:
    All new coils
    All new sparkplugs
    Replaced all Intake manifold gaskets Biggest cause of CEL's
    New Engine mounts
    Replaced and repaired fallen leather headliner

    Major fluid services coming up in June but I can happily say that it is about as near sorted as I can get until the big stuff starts up (hopefully not) clutch, F1 pumps potentiometers, etc.

    Right now without jinxing things It runs shifts great and no squawks. Brakes incredibly fast. I couldn't be happier. Hope I can continue on this path for awhile. Having fun with a big grin usually :>)
     
  22. EastMemphis

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    May 25, 2019
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    2001 gated 360 Spider, fresh major at purchase
    ~18 months ownership, ~1500 miles

    Repairs:
    Replaced Brake light switch
    Replaced Alarm module
    Replaced one throttle body
    Replaced secondary rams in capote
    Replaced all elastic bands in capote

    Upgrades:
    New Tubi shielded headers
    New Ferrari branded valved sports exhaust

    All DIY. Currently, car is 100% with no squawks except the EL panel in the instrument cluster.

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  23. Danedingerson

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    Dec 26, 2011
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    2007 Spider owned 1.4 years. CPO . 25K miles 3K by me. Spent $0
     
  24. hessank

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    2004 360 Spider
    In my 7th year of ownership. Apart from a strict and regimental maintenance schedule I had to replace the following:
    > Clutch & TOB
    > Driver's side rad Fan
    > Stick gear bushing (replaced with Hill's version)
    > Leaking hydraulic fluid block (replaced with Hill's version)

    Other than that it is as reliable as my old Porsche.
     
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  25. 02360spider

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    Been almost 3 years now and just more service done to add to the list I just quoted these things are not cheap to maintain


    Variators
    Cam seals front and rear
    Valve covers
    Hill bearing factory one failed after a year and a half fml.
    New belts and tensioners
    Braket revision for passenger side tensioner
    Oil pan gasket
    Also changed out all the exhaust heat sheilds and axel sheilds
    2 new 02 senors
    Alignment

    Upgrades since last year and half
    Center lock wheels in black
    Center lock nuts anodized red
    Rmr challenge intake
    Carbon engine panels
    Carbon cup holder
    Challenge rear and lower grills
    Powder coated rear emblems black
    Carbon fiber mirrors
    200 cell cats
    Exhaust piping and tips painted high temp black
    Carbon shifter paddles
    Carbon back of steering wheel

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  26. Ron328

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    '03 Modena. 6.5 year of ownership. Right ECU died about 2 years ago. Brake pads and rotors replaced last year (3 track sessions). Not a single issue with the old F1 pump but I decided to have it replaced after getting a brand new unit for a good price.
     
  27. Gillis Haasnoot

    Feb 4, 2020
    37
    Leiden, Netherlands
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    Gillis Haasnoot
    6 months 430, drove 10k miles. Now 50k miles. Use it as a daily.
    Replaced oil/water pump seals, cam seals, various vacuum hoses. Lots of various rubbers in suspension. All ball joints, new rear frame part holding Ferrari logo. New front frame part holding bumper. Fixed loose AC compressor.
    I did everything myself. Most parts from alpha, Maserati or eurospares. In total 2.5k
     
  28. one4torque

    one4torque Formula 3

    May 20, 2018
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    01 gated 3 yr ownership

    major upon purchase
    Water pump
    Motor mounts
    Headers
    Clutch t block
    Susp ecu
    1 susp accel sensor
    Cats
    Brakes
    Tires
    Headliner sagged fixed w leather
    Blinker module
    Alarm module
    Alarm siren 3x
    Battery 2x
    Stickies
    Drivers side door open lock assy
    Shifter bushing
    Ac fan knob disintegrated this week
    Dash vent cracked
    Fronk leather belts all cracked and broke
    Factory clear bra yellowed and cracked
    Ashtray door fell off
     

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