Vettel and Hamilton 'collide'

He did almost exactly the same thing on the previous start behind the safety car, in that one Vettel was further behind and almost got out dragged by Perez.No contact.

The next time Vettel closed up too much on Lewis and simply misjudged it,he actually said just after the race that lewis accelerated coming out of the corner then braked hard. of course it now seems that lewis did not accelerate at all,he braked lightly and then maintained that speed. (according to the FIA stewards)

 

So if 2 people out of 1000 say the sky is brown, the rest are saying it's blue...you go with the minority because that means you're right? Gotcha.

 

Greenland that well known hideout for F1 fanatics want to disqualify him from Baku F1?

This is a joke right?

Link please

 

Pathetic.

But here you go, it's from ESPN

https://twitter.com/natesaundESPNF1/status/880724951321411585

 

LOL

 

Does it matter?

 

Yes, or transforming a simple "Ooops incident" into a major diplomatic incident.

Had Vettel just left it at that after bumping into Hamilton's car, that would have been the end of what was a minor incident.

But no, he decided to throw a tantrum and go on to disregard all the safety car rules to have a go at his alleged "attacker".

Really you have to laugh at someone stupid enough to expect instant retribution after a minor racing incident.

Most important, it shows how short sighted Vettel was to have ruined a potential win by some childish behaviour. Later in the season, he may regret having thrown away precious points and Ferrari may well consider that as well in future when negotiating a new contract.

 

What if there are only 2 other people with 2 different opinions? You're going to be wrong either way! Other than that seems like a pretty reasonable approach. Just need to change the elections system of pretty much every country on earth now and we're good to go again!

 

Without going to the extreme you quote, a lot of people side with the majority because they feel more comfortable being within a large group, or can't be bothered to question the evidences, or they simply want an easy life.
Standing alone in an argument doesn't mean you are wrong.

 

Even people who have "spent some time on track" have different takes on the Baku incident; there is no party line here. Button says one thing, Stewart says another thing, etc... And they have all "spent some time on a track" !

But what is certain is that a minor contact between 2 cars during a safety car period would have gone almost unnoticed until it escalated into a major incident because one of the protagonists decided to demonstrate his anger in no uncertain way by flouting the rules.

It's nit picking to blame Hamilton for something that was completely blown out of proportion. Clearly Vettel lost control of himself here, and that the most alarming element of this controversy.

 

He gave Hamilton a "f-ck you" bump at 25 mph behind the safety car. Good Lord! Who cares at this point? No one was put in danger. Hamilton wasn't going to fly off track into a wall. Nothing was going to happen. At this point, it's just stupid.

The FIA better be smart about this. If they systematically take Vettel out of the WDC, they'll actually trash the entire season and remove the only reason 90% of people are even watching intently now. Do you think anyone cares to see which Merc wins the race? Do you think in the end people really care if Ric is there to pick up the scraps of everyone else's misfortunes? The answer is no. People want to see two of the best drivers on equal terms racing each other for the win at each GP. In case you missed it... I used the word "racing." We actually haven't seen a whole lot of that the past few years.

 

+1

 

Who cares? The FIA ,it's their train set.

 

By the same token, the FIA cannot ignore a major breach of protocol, so that the show goes on at all cost.

If a top sportsman doesn't behave appropriately, surely the authorities have to discipline him.

 

+1 emphatically agree

 

Sure they can. They've continuously ignored Lil' baby Elton Ham-Dashian's antics for years.

 

Excellent comeback.

And that's the point. No one is debating what Vettel has done was right or wrong. We know what he did was not correct. He's been punished for it (twice). Hamilton supporters want to give Vettel more penalties.

Finally someone here that actually races giving his opinion. +1

 

+1

 

Vettel has had some previous problems paying attention behind the safety car..

F1 News - Vettel says sorry to Webber for safety car error.

Managing to crash into the back of his team mate,taking both of them out,at the same time suggesting that Lewis was somehow also to blame by braking as the leader behind the safety car. Will he ever learn his lesson?

 

Actually it was later proven via a fan video that Lewis was indeed driving erratically behind the safety car. Vettel was vindicated and the FIA rescinded his grid penalty for the following race. There was also an inquiry into Hamilton's behavior at the following race in Shanghai and many thought he would receive a penalty. In the end he didn't of course.

Will Lewis ever learn his lesson?

 

I LOVE that you bring this up. I said it also about 5 days ago, but no matter, here I'll post it again for you:

It was another time when Little Louise was protected by the FIA (Louise was in a tight title battle at the time).


Also, Webber wasn't his teammate, and Vettel was in 3rd place in a bloody Toro Rosso, in only his 6th race

 

And to answer the last question, no he will not!

 

That's your take on it. I am myself in favour of a harsher punishment, and that has nothing to do with Hamilton whom I don't like at all. Rules have to be enforced or there is no point having them, IMO.

This isn't about bipartisan opinions, but about the enforcement of the rules.

If Hamilton commits offenses, I would be in favour of punishment too. I cannot understand, for example, why track limits are not enforced when he is about on the track during qualifs. Or how he got away with barging into Rosberg in several occasions.

 

This is all bs...lok who is dfending Seb..Villeneuve, Bernie...guy who like it or not are real players, not a bunch of *****es..heck, even Sir "*****" Stewart defend him!!
Button alo call this a nonsense....it's bevoming ridiculous..remenber James Hunt Punchibg a Marshal? Or Piquet beating the crap out of Salazar? and thats nothing compared to what he did next, lololo

 

Glass houses, lil' baby Elton Ham-Dahsian, GLASS HOUSES... Get it ?!?! You want to talk about a history of controversy, instigated trouble, then you are in a glass house lil' Hambro.