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  1. TazExprez

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    Hi,

    I have been a long time on and off lurker and have been wondering if there are any vegan Ferrari cars without any leather. I don't know if the Challenge Stradale and the Scuderia could be completely leather free. Could any model be completely leather free? I used the search function, but couldn't find any threads on this. Btw, I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian, but I like to buy vegan non-food items.

    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. GrigioGuy

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    #2 GrigioGuy, Aug 3, 2009
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    The CS and Scuderia are both out of production, so there's no way to special order them now.

    I'm certain any competent shop can recover the interior as you wish.

    Ferrari does offer a full customization program on their new cars. Enough $$, and you could get the whole car done in shag carpeting.

    You could always go all Alacantra and Carbon Fiber. See http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249876highlight=alacantra
     
  3. duskybird

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    You could order it that way if you have the chance. I would imagine someone has done a car in completely in alcantara.
     
  4. James_Woods

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    Welcome.

    No offense meant - but, What a strange idea! (i.e. pretty expensive way to make a point for people that would probably rather see you driving a Prius anyway...)

    One thing that occurs is that the steering wheel is specially made with the controls - maybe harder than the seats to expunge of leather.
     
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  6. VIZSLA

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    Still waiting on "The rest of the story" on that one.
    Where is Paul Harvey when we need him?:)
     
  7. thecheddar

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    Unusual question but, hey, it's legit. A lot of younger people are choosing vegetarianism (and veganism) as a lifestyle now and, as the numbers grow, it'll translate into product planning choices for car brands soon. My ex was a vegetarian and loathed every minute she sat in her last leather interior car.

    There's an heir to the Fiat fortune who bought a 599 GTB with a denim/recycled jeans interior. I believe it's in the 599 forum and features a two-tone blue paint scheme. Naturally, he's got an "in" with Ferrari (Agnelli's grandson) but I think Ferrari makes special interiors like this (or alcantara) for a price.
     
  8. cletus

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    The seats and interior should not be that hard for Ferrari or any good shop to redo(for some $$)....But i agree this would be more of a challenge. Of course you could always buy an older Fcar that did not have controls built into a wheel and then have a wheel custom made out of another material....
     
  9. David_S

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    Dunno what veganism has to do with leather in a car. Are you going to eat it? My friend is not only a vegan, but a "raw vegan," yet she wears all kinds of leather. Heck, her living room furniture is all leather.
     
  10. Tony K

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    I'll sell you a 308 full of broccoli if you're interested! :) $30k for a big pile of broccoli, and the car is free! I'll even throw in some capers and celery to give it more flavor!
     
  11. Jedi

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    #11 Jedi, Aug 3, 2009
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    This isn't meant to be a smart a$$ question, but if your car is to be TRULY
    VEGAN in the purist sense (which it sounds like is your desire), what are you going
    to use to FUEL it? Gas is made from crude, which is to a very large degree
    containing distillates of the long-ago decomposed remains of dinosaurs, birds, lizards, worms,
    fish, crustaceans, beetles, and countless trillions of life forms - NOT just plant
    material.

    Even E85 still has at least 15% gasoline in it.

    So is it really even possible to drive 'vegan'? Electric car maybe? But if the
    electricity is produced using fossil fuels, you're back in the same boat.

    Bicycle maybe.... with Scuderia shields?

    I'm just sayin....
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  12. Tony K

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    Pure alcohol (ethanol), perhaps? Isn't that made from corn? Although some fertilizers may contain bird poop, which comes from birds and may contain worms and insects. And farm equipment used to tend the crops likely burns gasoline . . .
     
  13. dm_n_stuff

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    Dinos often came from the factory with vinyl seats, leather was optional.

    don't know about anything newer than that.

    We do have these on www.fchatstuff.com Look HERE for Ferrari Bicycles

    With pretty damn good pricing too.

    All in stock in the warehouse and ready to ship. :)

    Order today!!

    No kidding, we really do offer these now for all you vegan (and non-vegans) who want the latest Ferrari Bikes, for kids of all ages.

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    Sorry Dave! Should have used your link for the bike - didn't know you had them! Actually, I never
    really noticed your site and the cool stuff you sell :D

    Gonna have to go do some browsin!


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  15. WILLIAM H

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    The F40 has very little leather, the seats are upholstered in nomex, the interior is mostly bare carbon fiber or Ferrari's "Mouse Hair" its not really mouse hair LOL, I think its wool

    When I reupholstered my 512M I did it in alcantara with a few carbon fiber bits
     
  16. DrStranglove

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    Why would you care? I would tell you the leather is the ultimate in recycling as the cow is getting killed anyway for the steak! This is just the modern expression of the Indians using the whole animal for good purposes.

    And to be truly flat out vegan...

    ...you could not use oil or gas at all!!!!
     
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    First, not a vegan but I understand the position. As an earlier post pointed out it is becoming more and more popular with young people and not just the granola types either. (Great way to get lean quickly and reasonably healthy when done correctly.) Second, I think oil products would be OK by vegan standards because they are the byproduct of the natural death of the animal; whereas leather is the result of an "unnatural death" e.g. death for man's benefit/profit. Third, I believe some 308 GT4 Dino's had cloth interiors from the factory. Fourth, are we being had by the original post?
     
  18. TazExprez

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    #18 TazExprez, Aug 3, 2009
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    Thanks a lot for all of your replies. I still have a few leather products from before I became a lacto-ovo vegetarian about 2.5 years ago. I just don't want to continue buying any more leather products. I am not a vegan when it comes to eating since I consume egg and dairy products. Those Ferrari bikes look pretty nice. Well, I guess no harm done in buying a used Ferrari with leather, when I can afford one. In this case, I wouldn't have been the one that ordered it with leather in the first place. It's good to know that for a price more options open up with new and used Ferraris. Thanks again.
     
  19. DGS

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    I really don't get the whole vegan thing. Does a carrot have less right to exist than a cow?

    All life on the planet recycles the same organics. You can't grow corn in sterilize dirt. Fertile soils reuse the organics from life long past (with an injection of solar energy). Even fossil fuels are simply solar energy stored long ago. Plants use solar energy to reconstruct organics from the soil. A cow makes grass edible by humans. ;)

    If there's a human practice I consider odd (or "anti-environment"), it's not the eating of meat, but the odd practice of sealing up the dead in metal boxes in concrete tombs -- taking the organics out of the cycle. From the earth did we come, and to the earth shall we return.

    Hamlet: "A man may fish with a worm that eat of a king, and eat of the fish that hath fed of that worm."
    King: "What dost thou mean by this?"
    Hamlet: "Nothing but to show you how a king may go a progress through the guts of a beggar."

    Within you may be molecules that once were part of Hiawatha, or Caesar, or a flower stepped on by a brontosaur. :p

    When I have a steak, I'm providing fiscal justification to reserve grazing land for more cows. When I have leather upholstery, it provides incentive to avoid barbed wire around those pastures (it mars the hides).

    Avoid any bovine products, and will the pastures remain, or would they be converted to condos, or battery factories, or chemical plants to make "leather free" shoes from petroleum distillates?

    The mink is a vicious, ill-tempered rodent with far worse survival skills than its cousin, the rat. It survives by being useful to humans.

    Humans didn't beam in from a galaxy far, far away. We're part of this holistic environment. We can participate intelligently, trying to renew the resources we depend on, or we can try to avoid the issue by pretending that we can resign from the world.

    Look how much trouble NASA is having, trying to build a stable closed environment using only people and plants.
     
  20. agup48

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    Wait a minute, aren't the bike seats leather? :D
     
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    +1000


    If other animals can eat other animals, why can't we? :p
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    Better yet, if animals would eat us why shouldn't we eat them?
     
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    I just looked up "raw vegan" and I have to say I'm perplexed. What's wrong with cooking food? lol

    What about the tires, and the machines used to make the frame? :p

    Good luck to the OP on your search. To each his own.....just more meat out there for the rest of us.:D
     
  25. Bullfighter

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    Think about it this way: Ferraris are preserved more than any other modern-ish car I can think of -- for 10, 20, 30 years and more. If you calculate the amount of leather used per year of a car's existence, the real "problem" would be leather-equipped disposable Hyundais and Toyotas that rack up 150,000 miles pretty quickly and then go to the crusher.

    I agree, but to each his own.

    OTOH, I am firmly opposed to chewing on the leather seats in Ferraris.
     

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