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  1. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    RB launches VCARB 01 F1 car in Las Vegas
    The rebranded RB team has revealed its 2024 Formula 1 car at a special event on the Las Vegas Boulevard.
    AUTHORJonathan Noble
    UPDATEDFEB 9, 2024 AT 10:51 AM

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    Following a winter of significant change for the Faenza-based squad, which has a new team principal and new identity, the VCARB 01 was shown for the first time at a launch party.

    The blue, black and white challenger features significant branding from new title sponsors Visa and Cash App.

    On the technical front, the new car features some interesting changes that have brought it closer to sister team Red Bull's concept, having been open about there being closer collaboration for this season.

    After opting to run Red Bull-designed rear suspension from last year’s Singapore Grand Prix, RB has now also switched to a pull-rod front suspension layout for this season.

    This brings it fully in line with the configuration that Red Bull has put to good use in F1 after winning both titles under the new ground effect rules.

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    Yuki Tsunoda, VCARB 01

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  2. SS454

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    Best looking car so far... at least livery wise.

    Very interesting hump just past the radiator inlets.
     
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  3. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    That is a pleasing car to look at!
     
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  4. Bas

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    Very pretty livery
     
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  5. DF1

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    Some tech details via Autosport. Certainly Mclaren are watching this closely as reported. Zack is ZERO happy about all this!

    --Things get slightly more intriguing on the technical front, since the team has changed its approach to align even more closely with Red Bull and pick up as many transferrable components as the regulations allow. That closeness with Red Bull, both from an engineering and geographical standpoint as it has moved some of its facilities to its Milton Keynes complex, has a couple of teams slightly rattled; the suggestion was that AlphaTauri as-was put a floor on its AT04 in Abu Dhabi to help its sister team with some development work. The improvements that it offered in low-speed conditions, argued McLaren CEO Zak Brown, offers "big concerns over the alliance" between the two teams.

    Part of that alignment between the two teams extends to the use of suspension components, and RB has taken on suspension components from Red Bull's 2023 car having initially built its own. A switch to the rear suspension used by the RB19 in Singapore helped dial more performance into last year's car, and this now extends to the front suspension package - including pull-rod actuated springs. The team has thus implemented the heavily inclined wishbones within the RB19's front suspension to imbue the VCARB 01 (yes, really) with improved anti-dive properties to keep the floor platform less affected by changes in pitch........

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    RB's VCARB 01 has clear technical alignments to sister squad Red Bull

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    Other details appear to be evolutions of how the AT04 ended the season; the nose is similar in form but slightly more sculpted into a spoon-shaped dip in the centre of the wing, while the sidepods retain their shape with the topside blister generating a channel to offer the downwashing airflow some direction. But the inlet here is different, slightly more Red Bull-like with an underbiting leading edge built to help enlarge the undercut.

    The late-season rear wing has also been included, with the exposed-tip upper element that became a prevailing trend last season. A small bracket near the front corners of that upper element helps to keep the wing within the legality window set by the FIA, but skirts the intent of the rules governing the rear wing to increase vorticity at the tips - boosting rear wing performance.

    Given the similarities to the AT04, we can likely expect a few things to come with new aerodynamic surfaces and developments promised for 2024, although the late floor upgrade was added to last year's Abu Dhabi package with a view to developing it for this season given the stability of the regulations. With that in mind, those hoping that the VCARB 01 would issue some insights into this year's Red Bull design might be a little disappointed, but it won't be wholly surprising to see more of the RB19 genes in its sister team's new charger.--
     
  6. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Zak should've highlighted those problems before signing the document agreeing to the rules.

    It's literally part transfers within the regulations. It's not like they're scanning an entire car and providing a clone (cough merc-tracing point cough).
     
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  7. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    He is still talking about this lol. Too late in my opinion. Its a done deal situation and the world is moving on!
     
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  8. william

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    Perhaps, but the name is a tongue-twister.

    I wonder how the commentators are going to call it.
     
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  9. ktu

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    Paint! we have paint!
     
  10. andreaguthrie

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    The best looking livery revealed so far for the 2024 season.
     
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  11. thx enzo

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    Really wasn’t much of a contest up to now.
     
  12. Nembo1777

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    Just call them Red Calf;)
     
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  13. DF1

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    Funny lol !
     
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  14. Remy Zero

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    V Carb? Reminds me to keep my carbs under check this weekend.
     
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  15. DF1

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    RB rules out Faenza F1 factory move despite new Milton Keynes facility
    RB has dismissed claims it could relocate its Formula 1 factory from Faenza to Britain, even though a new facility is being readied in Milton Keynes.
     
  16. Nembo1777

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    They would lose most of the staff, relocating from the land of great food and wine and good weather to...rainy fish and chips?! No thanks!
     
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  17. 375+

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    Red Steer perhaps?
     
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  18. william

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    #19 william, Feb 26, 2024
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2024
    It was always assumed that the ex-Minardi team couldn't be totally moved from Faenza.
    When Minardi sold to Paul Stoddart, there was a clause in the contract preventing the team to be relocated.
    Possibly that criterion was kept when Red Bull purchased it later.
    Dieter Mateschitz alluded to it once when he toyed with the idea of putting Toro Rosso for sale.
     
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  19. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Absurd that RB thinks this lol. Haas are proof that is not true. Haas rarely competitive to begin with and share with Ferrari. Cat out of bag so I expect no action from F1 or FIA on this.


    F1 warned of consequences if customer parts are banned
    Formula 1 risks a less competitive grid if it pushes ahead with the idea of stopping customer relationships between teams, reckons RB.
     
  20. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Haas spends no money and even uses equipment from their very first season still. Not exactly a fair comparison.
     
  21. DF1

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    True but an internal problem for them. Conscious cost cutting/stabilizing decision. RB are wrong about this. They would have to source items etc on their own if -IF this was limited by regulation. It wont be but to think the grid or state so as fact it also wrong. I have zero issue with the arrangement as so many teams are now involved in 'sharing' . Nothing will happen but the statement is just an opinion at best.

    Id personally like to see them beat Aston among others and do so on their own. With team 'values' so high and sponsorship over-flowing, why not source more and develop as was done in the past. We ask for independent teams etc. Many are not now at all. Too utterly dependent on the top 3.
     
  22. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Totally agree with the last part. But then I also think the sport should massively simplify itself. I've said it a million times now but back in 2006 when we went to the V8s...Cosworth only spend 20 million developing that engine. Imagine that today? Same type of base rules, partner with an oil company for renewable fuel. Inflation adjusted ALL teams would be able to make their own engine, or partner with a Cosworth/Judd/car manufacturer, and spend less than what it costs them to get new engines for a single car for a season currently.

    Mclaren for once could actually have their own branded engines, lol.

    As for the sharing...I think there's a case for both sides, financially. I think it kinda evens out. If they get their shared parts, they have to design ''around'' the parts purchased. If they go completely on their own, they don't have to compromise (spend) so much...Part sharing probably works out a little cheaper but in the grand scheme of things it evens out I guess.
     
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  24. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Worst livery of all of them. Between this abomination and Alpine, flip a coin.

    Best livery: Williams, followed by Sauber
     

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