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Updated classified section rules - effective 1/1/2019

Discussion in 'Ferraris' started by ylshih, Jan 2, 2019.

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  1. sevminasyan

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    #151 sevminasyan, Jun 5, 2019
    Good evening and thank you all for your input

    Steve
     
  2. Robb

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    #152 Robb, Sep 6, 2019
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  3. ylshih

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    #153 ylshih, Sep 7, 2019
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    We tried the strictly moderated route and got a ridiculous amount of flack for that and just don't want to deal with it any more.

    As it stands, there are users, I won't even call them buyers because there's often little evidence they actually are interested in buying, who think they're entitled to piss on anyone's ad just because they looked at an ad a few years ago, saw an offbeat price for a salvage car recently, or got turned down by a seller when making a lowball offer. Then there are the sellers who generally hate it when anyone says anything the least negative, whether it's service history, purchase history, title history, market price perception actually relevant to the car or not, or anything else. Then there are buyers who are suspicious of one-sided moderation that favors the seller. It seems impossible to satisfy the variety of user segments simultaneously and this is why we backed out of it.

    Given the history of this issue and the limitations of the forum software, where we are at is that users need to express their discontent with "inappropriate" comments by addressing the "offending" user and not expect that moderation will take any action. OK, let's say a user says they'd rather buy a C8 when a 360 is being listed for sale, well then a moderator might have a little fun ;). But otherwise, so long as users address the comment and not the user, it is all fair game. We call this "peer moderation" or feedback and consider it generally appropriate.

    Yes, that means that some ads are going to have a higher volume of user commentary that may cause some buyers to have second thoughts. But it also means that sellers who really understand the market can make those posting ignorant comments look like twits or fools, or buyers who really understand the market won't let ignorant comments deter them because they know value when they see it.
     
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  4. Robb

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    #154 Robb, Sep 7, 2019
    I appreciate what all the mods do. And I can understand the herding of cats and a somewhat impossible ask for both sides.

    My suggestion still stands to just let ads be a single post by a seller and break it down by model. Then let the buyer answer many or few questions by pm or email based on how thorough or crappy their ads are. The peanut gallery can discuss in the model threads with any drama or dislikes or wishes to drive the market up or down there.

    But if Ferrarichat is trying to encourage subscriptions from those that need to sign up to sell a car or several, I don’t think this helps the revenue side of the F-chat business model.

    Robb
     
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  5. ylshih

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    #155 ylshih, Sep 7, 2019
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    I would propose that any seller who wants to do this can "report" their new ad once posted and ask that the mods close the ad to further replies. They can add text to their ad that explains this is a closed ad and that buyers can contact them by PM for details not addressed in their first post. Sellers who want to go this way should really carefully think through their first post, just as they would with a print ad, so that they minimize followup queries nor expect fulfillment of any followup mod action requests (we're not going to keep editing the original post nor enable adding explanatory posts absent a good reason).
     
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  6. ylshih

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    #156 ylshih, Sep 7, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2019
    I've edited Post #1, commentary rules, to include this new proposal:

    Any seller may choose to close their ad to any questions or commentary at the time of initial posting or subsequently and require that users contact them through "conversations" for further details. Use the report function to request that a moderator close the ad. Moderators will not generally make edits or additions to closed ads or delete any posts made prior to a request for closure. (Revised, see Post #155)

    I've also added a post to the Advert Posting Guidelines thread:

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/146799990/
     
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  7. Alcav5

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    #157 Alcav5, Nov 2, 2019
    sorry if this has been answered I did look through many of the pages.

    As a silver sub , I have a car for sale for about a month now in the other car section. I plan on listing my Ferrari soon in the Ferrari section. Since the ad would be in a different section, would that be acceptable relative to the 1 car ad per year rule?

    Thx
     
  8. ylshih

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    #158 ylshih, Nov 2, 2019
    No, it's 1 car per year without regard to which section your listings are placed. You should upgrade to Rossa to get 3 car ads per year. However, if you wait till 2020 to post your new ad, then the counter resets and you can have a 2019 car ad and 2020 car ad active at the same time.
     
  9. Alcav5

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    #159 Alcav5, Nov 2, 2019
    I upgraded.

    Thanks for the quick reply.
     
  10. Simon^2

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    #160 Simon^2, Nov 2, 2019
    So a Rossa could list 3 cars on 12/31 and 3 more on 1/1 and have 6 ads running at one time?
     
  11. ylshih

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    #161 ylshih, Nov 2, 2019
    Yes, that's correct.
     
  12. kreh

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    #162 kreh, Nov 23, 2019
    Why are some thread titles shown in red BOLDFACE text and others, like mine, are shown in black regular text?
     
  13. BOKE

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    #163 BOKE, Nov 23, 2019
  14. kreh

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    #164 kreh, Nov 23, 2019
    Don't understand. There is only one post and it is mine.
     
  15. BOKE

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    #165 BOKE, Nov 23, 2019
    Dude, you read the post and it turned black. Watch this magic. Hold my beer.
     
  16. kreh

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    #166 kreh, Nov 23, 2019
    As I see it in classified, the title is black text as shown in your example. Are you saying it will turn red BOLDFACE when I get replies?

    Thanks much.
     
  17. BOKE

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    #167 BOKE, Nov 23, 2019
    Bingo, Kim!!! Red indicates new posts.

    Check it again.:rolleyes:
     
  18. kreh

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    #168 kreh, Nov 23, 2019
    Thanks BOKE. I think I got it.

    Cheers
     
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  19. dbluestein

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    #169 dbluestein, Feb 29, 2020
    I’ve got to say it really hurts the FChat community to not allow a seller to post multiple parts for sale in one ad. There was a post for several 355 parts for sale (in the same ad), most of which have been impossible for me to source but the classified ad is no longer there due to the “storefront” rules. Is it reasonable to expect a seller to individually post each of their offerings when they are all of similar type? I know if I personally had a box full of old F parts lying around I’d post a quick ad for all of them but never spend the time and effort to individually post them but that’s just me I suppose. Food for thought as I continue to scour the World Wide Web for that one thing I can’t seem to find.....
     
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  20. BLAMPEE

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    #170 BLAMPEE, May 3, 2020
    How do we search within a sub-forum with this new layout?

    Like if I want to find a "california" for sale within this forum?
     
  21. jimpo1

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    #171 jimpo1, May 15, 2020
    Umm....Search>More>keywords+forum specific.
     
  22. dinogts

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    #172 dinogts, May 27, 2020
    All I want to know is:

    Why is "Dave rocks" a banned user?
     
  23. arachnyd

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    #173 arachnyd, Aug 24, 2020
    I searched, I spent time looking... cannot figure out how to switch my tag from "for sale" to "sold"- can anyone point me in the right direction?
     
  24. Former Aston owner

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    #174 Former Aston owner, Sep 28, 2020
    cool
     
  25. tfazio

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    #175 tfazio, Sep 28, 2020
    Click "Report" on one of your posts on your for sale thread. Then ask a moderator to mark the thread as sold and closed for further comment. They will take care of it for you.
     
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