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Updated classified section rules - effective 1/1/2019

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  1. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie
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    Just discovered this thread because I put a 'wanted ad' to the parts section.
    I am silver subscribed solely because of unlimited picture upload for 'give-and-take' regarding technical issues.
    And I'm here for nice conversation. For selling my stuff there's ebay. I pay a small fee and don't have to pay attention to questionable rules and reprimand. Simple.
    Subscription values declined over the years anyway. But it doesn't surprise me. Like many other successful websites, Fchat seems to aim at a license to print money too

    Best from Germany
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  2. Jakuzzi

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    Greetings:
    For the third time in one month one of my posts in the classifieds section has been deleted citing "Classified ad rules violation. No opinions by posters. Simply "like" the original post if you like the car."

    The latest one to be deleted was for a 328 for sale [https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/1986-ferrari-328-gts.585698/] . There is a picture of a Dino with the Ferrari 328 and I commented on picture by writing "Nice Dino and Ferrari " or "A Dino and a Ferrari".

    Yet a post #31 stating "Beautiful! I will be in Miami several times next month and would love to see it on person. I will be in touch.

    Cheers
    Dave" Was/Has not been deleted, and it seems to fall withing the same crass "violation" that I committed.

    I have been a Lurker here since the inception of Fchat in 2000-2001 and officially became a member in 2005, and the only time(s) that my posts have been deleted have been in the last 3 months, sometime after the change of ownership/management/overlords.

    Please feel free to contact me or comment, so as to know why the selective reprimands are being handed out.

    That is all. :)
     
  3. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    For some reason, the For Sale section has turned into a free fire zone.
     
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  4. Alcav5

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    @Jakuzzi Same thing happened to me / my comment was removed. I think the answer I got was any comment neededto be relative to an interest in the ad, not an observation. So if I said "wow gorgeous car , can you tell me what color is that" that would be ok as opposed to just gorgeous car. The example you sighted that they didn't remove seems iffy, but maybe the mods were being liberal with the comment.
     
  5. daytona355

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    I don’t see why we can’t post congratulating someone on a beautiful car anyway..... this is ferrari chat after all, not Renault chat or Nissan chat, where the cars are so ugly you have to have been wearing a blindfold to have bought one. I get the stupid posts that knock the seller or the car with inane ******** about whether it’s a historical dog and the like, and character or car assassination posts, they are unwarranted, but appreciating the marque is what we all signed up for isn’t it? If we can’t browse the cars and add our appreciation for them, whats the ****ing point of coming here?
     
  6. paulchua

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    seems like a very nice post. Strange it would be deleted. perhaps there was a misunderstanding.
     
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  7. HotShoe

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    My guess is they are doing it to prevent shills from bumping the ads to the top and drumming up interest thru traffic/comments.
     
  8. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    That's the standard explanation. But nobody looks into the reality the "For Sale" section sucks. Even the FML is better.
     
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  9. DrewH

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    The classifieds section is more of a 'safe space' than any safe space that a University has for Millennials.
     
  10. daytona355

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    What’s the problem with that anyway? Isn’t the classified ads section supposed to be somewhere you go to try to sell your goods, and therefore, if there isn’t any traffic, nothing sells? Or have I missed something.... ?
     
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  11. HotShoe

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    I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just posting the reason the mods gave earlier when it was brought up.

    Lol, as a sponsor I’d love to have comments made on my ads as often as possible. :)
     
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  12. daytona355

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    I know, I was just pointing out the daft ness of it if it were a reason to ban comments..... seems counterproductive to the point of the section
     
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  13. Jakuzzi

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    I feel the same way.
     
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  14. Nospinzone

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    Aren't they re-doing the whole classified section any way?
     
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  15. BT

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    I got a similar comment deleted for the metallic red 360 spider manual that was for sale. Seems like a weird / random rule, but whatever. I don't participate too much on this site anymore because I feel like an outsider, where I used to feel right at home.

    :(
    BT
     
  16. technom3

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    I don't understand the big deal. Who cares if your comment gets deleted when all you said was "beautiful car best of luck with the sale"

    Its not like you were being silenced. Its a nice comment but an unessecary one. I don't see the harm in it staying there either. I don't think it SHOULD be deleted... but I don't see why someone should get upset with the comment being deleted.

    Having 30 people say nice car does get a bit irritating when you are trying to sift through the thread for information though. It ends up sounding like a broken record.... Plus there is that like button
     
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  17. rob lay

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    You really know absolutely nothing about our business or FerrariChat based on your comments recently. Your only motivation is to hurl insults at us even if no founding. All you need to look at as evidence against your uniformed comment is number of views per ad, our number of sponsors, our number of subscribed users posting classifieds, and the low turnover.

    Now I do hate the new classified rules, but the moderators pushed it through and I'm in the "prove it works" better phase. Just shows I'm open to ideas even if they aren't mine. We're also in process of implementing a true professional classified ad system.
     
  18. dm_n_stuff

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    In this instance, the rule went into effect January 1, 2019. Your post was the only, "GLWS, Love it" post made after that date, so it was removed. The other comments predate the policy, and were left alone.

    D
     
  19. paulchua

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    Based in these last 3 comments, I think it all makes sense now. Just standard functional testing and nothing personal.
     
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  20. Texas Forever

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    If you would prefer no feedback, just say so.

    Good, you need it. The current system doesn't work. BAT kicks your ass.
     
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  21. technom3

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    LOL...

    You and I typically agree on a lot.

    And we don't have to agree on everything thats for sure.... but the BAT thing is a whole different business model. In all honesty eBay kicks BATs butt....
     
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  22. Jakuzzi

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    #122 Jakuzzi, Apr 24, 2019
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    Thanks for the clarification. :)

    Sometimes one likes to make an additional positive comment about a car, besides the "like" button.
     
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  23. rob lay

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    how do they kick our ass? we move more Ferraris and at much higher prices. BAT is an auction dump it platform, which is VERY successful for them and FUN to spectate. if you want to sell a Ferrari, auction it at BAT or list on FerrariChat?
     
  24. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    From a user standpoint. Your format is hard to browse. This is why sellers have been bumping their ads. I find BAT easy to browse and entertaining.
     
  25. BT

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    BAT has gotten some pretty good numbers for Ferraris, but if I were an owner with a premium car, I would list here first, and if no sale in a month, possibly give BAT a try. I think there are better buyers here, generally speaking.

    I'm not sure when things changed overall for me on this site, but it seems to be the case on many marque specific sites. S2ki.com also lost a good bit of interest around the same time. Maybe it is the natural cycle of a hobby / interest. I have met many cool people and enjoyed many fine events through Ferrarichat, and for that I will always hold a favorable opinion of the site, even if I am not a very active participant anymore. I recall feeling a bit run off by a few members here who like to throw mud as a general rule.

    :)
    BT
     

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