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Turtle warning...

Discussion in '296' started by hubyone, Jul 12, 2023.

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  1. hubyone

    hubyone Karting

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    Did any of you have this warning when driving a bit fast ?

    I had a message saying something like 'performance limited' and this icon showed up

    Then the car was very limited in terms of revs and speed.

    I was next to home so I parked it.

    Day after... took the car, all good.

    Ferrari told me its normal... on the new models (Roma, SF90 and 296) there is an auto limitation if the car is engine temperature is not high enough.

    To me the temperature was already quite high...



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  2. Pastaboy1980

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    if thats real, that's amazing!
     
  3. Kmaaq

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    Lol that’s funny I would think the car went into limp mode probably. Never happened to me, and I’m flooring it 24/7.
     
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  4. Scheki

    Scheki Formula Junior

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    This is hilarious... :)
     
  5. Alex.Santos

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    On my SF90, even after driving for 40 minutes, the warning appeared when I accelerated harder. Would anyone have any information? My car only has 300km on it.
     
  6. 3POINT8

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    thats hilarious
     
  7. 488gtbmasergt

    488gtbmasergt Karting

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    It happened to me once while on the race track. Second day of open racing. I was really pushing it as hard as I dared keeping in mind it had only 1500 kms on the odometer.
    Never came back.
    I did not like to see this turtle either...
     
  8. Dino_Argento

    Dino_Argento Formula Junior

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  9. Scheki

    Scheki Formula Junior

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    This is not real ;)
    Who on earth did invent this turtle mania ;)
     
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  10. Alex.Santos

    Alex.Santos Rookie

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    Dino, did it appear right after you pushed the engine a little more?
     
  11. Dino_Argento

    Dino_Argento Formula Junior

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    Yes / getting the revs up then came on…… was fine for at least an hour before but mainly city driving… must be a temperature issue
     
  12. Alex.Santos

    Alex.Santos Rookie

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    Last week I drove about 60 km basically warming up. When I forced acceleration, the warning light came on. In my case the temperature was already within good parameters.
     
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  13. peterp

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    I don't know anything about the 296, but Ferrari has had "Slowdown" warning light since at least the mid-80's that is usually triggered by excessive catalytic converter temperatures. My (complete) guess is that the "turtle" warning is similar and based on cat temps, or maybe it is something new based upon excessive battery temp?

    The old slowdown could be triggered if you lost a single coil (in a dual coil engine) due to raw fuel in one of the cats (due to loss of spark in that bank while fuel continues to flow). This document provides some info for the older models https://technistrada.com/ferrari-slow-down-light-explained-and-solved---technistrada (don't know if this has any relevance for the 296).
     
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  14. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Pretty sure that's not a turtle, but a tortoise. :p
     
  15. PieGre

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    Turtle appears sometimes when there's an issue with a sensor as there are apparently a huge amount of sensors in the car. Happened to me once, I switched the car off and started it again and the turtle was gone.
     
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  16. JJ77

    JJ77 Formula Junior

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    Haha… if Enzo was still in charge, imagine it was mocking your driving! But as we all know, Enzo wouldn’t have agreed to a Hybrid.
     
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  17. greyboxer

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    Is this symbol in the 296 owners manual - it wasn't in the early SF90 edition and maybe that's part of the confusion (not that anyone ever reads the manual but still...)
     
  18. Dino_Argento

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    based on my experience and the visual display in the app the turtle warning is a combustion engine related warning - I think given when it came on it sounds like a temperature sensor overreacting… the 296 has 3 different control systems ( CPUs?) apparently and if it detects any anomaly in reading between different ones it will trigger a warning - car is definitely a drama queen. Car still drives fine and sales guys said other customers have had it and not to worry about it so let’s see.
     
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  19. REALZEUS

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    How do we know that? According to his son Piero, he would have agreed even to an EV, if that meant better performance.
     
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  20. Dino_Argento

    Dino_Argento Formula Junior

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    Ferrari Service just contacted me with this explanation:


    “This rather amusing Turtle warning symbol usually comes on when the Hybrid system does a self-calibration, but this usually occurs from a recent start off…. Not after an hour of driving.


    Please monitor this next time you take the car out, as this is not a fault light as such, but more of a warning that the Hybrid system is calibrating.


    But is this light persists we may need to do a diagnostic test”

    So in other words they aren’t really sure either… :)
     
  21. Dino_Argento

    Dino_Argento Formula Junior

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    So started and drove the car this weekend and no more “turtle”… I guess case of just switch it off and on again… car is just through 1,000 miles and no major issues (not to jinx it) and I rarely ever plug it in :-D
     
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  22. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    What if you get this symbol?
     

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  23. peterp

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    I would say "flip one of them over, and that's the warning light for dealer service charges".

    But that would be inappropriate. So I'm definitely not going to say it.
     
  24. Dino_Argento

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    Yes - I have this other one all the time… I asked and they said it means you are being steadily shafted by Ferrari on deprecation…. There is no fix currently but it’s okay to keep driving…
     
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  25. cmargosi

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    It's funny, I get that second one in my McLaren right before the car needs a $3,600 annual service. And I had it a few times in the Aston Martin too. I thought it was just quirky British electronics, but apparently it's some sort of exotic car thing.....

    It's certainly not, as I once hoped, the car telling me that it attracts the opposite sex. Most of my thumbs up come from teenaged boys and middle aged men :-(.
     
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