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Tubi-Style or Capristo for my F430

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  1. shifter

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    #1 shifter, Oct 8, 2018
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    Narrowed my manifolds down to Tubi or Capristo. Appreciate any words of wisdom towards making the decision after reviewing my take on how they compare. Both are 4-2-1. Both are overpriced, imho.

    I am pairing the manifolds with a new Ferrari Sport exhaust cat-back so the Capristo brackets won't be necessary. An additional pairing will be the mini-cat extenders with the OEM Cats.

    Advantages/Disadvantages of Tubi over Capristo

    Tubi Advantages:
    - Inconel 600 material (Capristo is 309, but not sure how necessary the I600 will be given it’s a street car)
    - Metal heat shields (Capristo blankets must work better, but they don't look very good, especially half baked)
    - OEM appearance to Ca smog stations
    - Close development ties with Ferrari (this is a weak advantage, I admit).

    Tubi Disadvantages:
    - approx ~$1700 more
    - Capped off air rail for non-Scud applications like mine, can't easily get it w/o though I'm told a custom order *may* be possible (probably added cost for less content [emoji4]
    - 2 yr warranty vs 3 yr from Capristo
    - customer service may be, well, more relaxed than Capristo.
    - Capristo manifolds are a work of art in design and quality. I've never seen a pic of Tubi manifolds without the heat shield - have to go by reputation.

    Anyone have any feedback on Tubi manifolds? This might be another disadvantage as plenty of positive feedback is available for Capristo.
     
  2. BlacktopRacing

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    Tubi makes headers for the F430?
     
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    For me translates to “knock off”
     
  6. shifter

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    Tubi Style is their name, not a knockoff. Tubi for short

    They are the original in Maranello, I’ve been there.

    Www.tubistyle.it

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    I love my Tubi
     
  8. Jgivoo

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    Are you changing your headers for a different sound or afraid of OEM headers cracking?
     
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    Cool! Thanks for the clarification and the link. Now I'm intrigued
     
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    Changing primarily for failure potential and a bit more power.



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    You'll probably be 10 grand in before its said and done.
    I'd put the money towards a 458.
     
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    #12 Jgivoo, Oct 8, 2018
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    If you are only changing for potential failure, then you may want to consider going with the OEM sport exhaust( made by Tubi). It allows the exhaust system to expand without putting stress on the OEM headers. With the original OEM brackets, the exhaust system cannot expand which is the major contributor for the OEM headers cracking. The OEM sport exhaust has a different support system allowing the exhaust system to expand without any impedance. I have measured expansion rates of 1/2 to 5/8 in using the OEM sport exhaust. In addition, the OEM sport exhaust gets rid of the "can" and now each side has its own independent muffler. Not only is there a weight savings but the engine compartment looks much cleaner.

    There is a new OEM sport exhaust on eBay for 2k. This is one heck of a bargain
     
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    His F430 is a manual. No amount of money can get you a 458 like that. :)
     
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    Thanks for the feedback, and I did pick up that sport exhaust on e-bay the other day, it’s was too good to pass up.

    I did plan to change to the Sport exhaust first, and really didn’t think about how that could solve or substantially reduce the problem.





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  15. Dseig001

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    Look for the Ferrari Performance Exhaust for the 430, I got mine from a dealer clearancing them out dirt cheap - $2500 or so. It’s a Tubi product that fixes a lot of the header issues and sounds AMAZING
     
  16. ttforcefed

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    The tubi sport wasnt available as an option when the cars were being ordered. Anyone know why they came out with this exhaust so far after production ended?

    I went with cap headers on my 06 because i figured if ever did the mufflers id go with the cap because of the sound they make on a 430

    On my 355 i did tubi headers and tubi test pipes and tubi exhaust


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  17. ttforcefed

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    Why not go capristo headers and capitsto hi flow cats with the sport exhaust?

    We shld look back to see if any 430 owners have had both capristo and tubi and can speak to the difference in the sound.

    Whats different about the tubi sold through the dealer vs the tubi exhaust available aftermarket?


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  20. shifter

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    #20 shifter, Oct 13, 2018
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    I do have a Ferrari/Tubi sport exhaust coming. It seems to help with the header fracture issues, but I might miss that polished muffler in the engine bay with ‘Ferrari’ on it. I bought the set last week and should be coming soon.

    Talking to a few different vendors, there really isn’t any price difference between the Tubi manifolds and capristo manifolds. Both are 4-2-1 but Tubi is Inconel 600 with a metal heat shield and capristo is SS309 with the cloth-type blanket. Inconel 600 has much better thermal properties and fatigue/fracture resistance at high temps, but not sure we need it. SS 309 is also a higher grade than 304, primarily being lighter so thicker gages can be used.

    The Tubi’s only come with the air rail that’s capped off for the f430.

    Tubi’s look stock, capristo looks like a work of art until the heat shield goes on.

    The surface temp of the capristo manifolds will be much lower with the cloth blankets but that heat is then going to the cats and mufflers and pipes in between so Underhood temps may not be that much better. Everything else will run hotter if the manifolds aren’t conducting.

    Capristo has a 3 year warranty, Tubi a 2 year but I didn’t suspect either will be needed.

    If both are 4-2-1 and equal length, then unless tube diameters are significantly different (doubtful) then sound will be the same, everything else held equal.


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  21. ttforcefed

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    My dealer said the sport and the tubi are the same exhausts.

    I also emailed tubi to see what they say as far as differences.


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