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TR Recreation for sale- vintage eligible?

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by EC308, Dec 4, 2005.

  1. Euro RS

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    Is this the car in Pennsylvania selling for $239K? I think its on the Dupont Registry website.

    I just joined this chat forum (I have a 330 America) and am looking for a really good "sleeper" Barchetta recreation (166 Dino, 250 MM, 275 MM, 500 Mondial) -- in other words, not one of the common Spyders like a 250 California, 250 TR, etc. Car must have Ferrari drivetrain and good reconditioned or reproduction parts, etc.

    If you guys are aware of anything, let me know.
     
  2. kevfla

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    If the two pictures load correctly, shown is Frank 'n car outside Laguna Seca in August, 1994. The second shot might answer some questions about how the A-pillars look. He indulged me for about a minute but was probably getting tired/annoyed at all of the attention thru-out the concours week.

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  3. bigodino

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    He seems very laid back, especially in the second picture! ;)
     
  4. 134282

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    Damn curmudgeons...! It's nice to see you play well with others, Old Dude... :)

    That cut "GTO" is smoking hot...
     
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    Still around. Assuming we're talking about the same cars here. I always thought the ZZ top drummer's was red, not yellow.

    FCA's Ferraris on Oakstreet in Chicago 2004. I got a bunch more pics of this car btw. It is quite beautiful.
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  6. Dave330gtc

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    Clearly that is Hil's car on Oak St.
     
  7. Old Guy

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    Right, both cars still exist. Hil's LWB is yellow, Frank's SWB is red. I think I saw it listed for sale somewhere recently, but I'm not sure.

    O.G.
     
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  9. donv

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    That car is awesome! I love the little oriental rug floormats, too!

     
  10. bill365

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    Yep, That's Hil driving.
     
  11. Ed Niles

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    Thanks, OG, for posting those very interesting pix of the "GTO spiders. They look great, but IMHO the Nembo looks even better because of the windshield configuration. Don't forget that Tom Meade built it for a customer who wanted a GTO spider! Cheers
     
  12. Horsefly

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    Too bad we lost all those Nembo and Drogo photos during the great F-chat crash of 94.
     
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  14. donv

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    Do the GTO spyders have the same issue with low windshield height as the Nembo spyder? Or is the seating position lower or something?
     
  15. speedmoore

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    You can certainly race it legally in:

    HSR "Historic Sportscar Racing Ltd."
    CHRA "Continental Historics Racing Association"
    BRIC "Brian Redman Int'l Challenge"
    and probably SVRA if you are real serious about doing half a dozen events per year. I know all of the right people in all of these organizations well as my company has participated for years in all of these clubs by supporting customers like yourself.

    Many cars in HSR are converted street cars into copy/clones of the racing version and there is ZERO problem with that as long as it's in the spirit of vintage racing and conforms to all safety regulations and class rules. In fact that's one of the reasons it grew into a successful vintage race series is they opened up the fields for folks that could not get into SVRA.

    Yes, some clubs prefer a good "legit" pedigree, but the rules and regulations have relaxed over the years except for a venue like Goodwood and even there they had a copy of Junior Johnson's NASCAR and he even drove it, so things have lightened up a bit on period correct recreations.

    Many Ferrari race cars NEVER go to the track although they were once the dominating car. Now it's Porsche simply because Ferrari's have become "too valuable in some folks eyes to race". I disaqree 100% with this thought. Sitting in a museum or garage is harder on these cars than racing. Using them on the track and keeping them "race ready" prepared is by far better than dry rotting away on an estate. Anybody that can afford one of these multi-million dollar cars can certainly afford to have it repaired when it was crashed just like it was done it the day by competent craftsmen. So I don't buy that. Besides, other competitors have the highest respect for one anothers equipment, it's just not an issue.

    But back to your car. I know for a fact that every single vintage racing body would like to see Ferrari cars participate in their events. And if that means a faithful reproduction, why not. Ferrari garners the absolute keenest interest in racing fans and vintage racing is a business that needs "fans" in addition to participants to make the business flourish.

    You can PM me and I'll be glad to help you out.

    David
     
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    The Oakstreet shots show that a creation like the GTO Spyder can attend a prestigious FCA event.

    I have seen replicas in Goodwood's events.
     
  17. Old Guy

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    The seating positions and proportions on the GTO Spyders are different. I'm about six feet tall, and in the first photos I'm driving the yellow one (with Hil as passenger) and riding in the unpainted car. Notice that I have plenty of space between my head and the windshield pillars in both.

    I think Ed will agree that Tom Meade would sacrifice some utility in favor of form or design; the windshield on the Nembo that I examined was laid back at a lower angle as I recall, and likely the proportions of the cockpit are different. The point or corner of the windshield was no more than two or three inches from my left eye.

    Both the Nembo spyders (and the coupe) and the GTO spyders were attempts to build a car which Ferrari didn't. Dave Cummins' design for the GTO spyder was very close to the '62/'63 berlinetta; Tom Meade's for the Nembo was more of his interpretation of the GTO/64. They're both interesting sidebars to Ferrari design.

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    THAT'S cool...!
     
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    O.G.-- Thanks! I can continue to dream about those cars, then!

     
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  23. SefacHotRodder

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    Do you know who's swb that is?
     
  24. ArtS

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    That van looks like the perfect Carbon (NNO) mobile!

    Regards,

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    Nah, it's not a black Enzo...
     

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