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  1. Adamas

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    While not typically 'my style' at all (my tastes tend towards the Old Master style oils), I'm working on picking up this piece, and perhaps a few more by this artist.


    What's so compelling about this photograph ?




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  2. Adamas

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    ...it's not a photograph- it's a pencil drawing.

    Amazing.

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    Well is Banksy a great artist either? He's probably the best of our time right now and will probably end up on par with warhol one day, he's simply a stencil artist. What about a guy like rothko? Was that a ton of skill? Didn't stop people from dropping $30m on rothko pieces. Damien Hirst may not be the most skilled but im willing to bet his work is up there as one of the safest/best investments moving forward, I think he's bottomed out and is starting an upward trajectory
     
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    You claimed he was "...one of the best living artists", and I am positing that, IMHO, he's not. The real question is what you're using as a/the metric(s) of 'best'.

    You're seemingly focused on his marketability and sales. If this is your primary metric for 'best', than that's fine; it's not the metric I'd use...it may not even be in the top 5, but to each their own. If the sales and auction results support your premise, then I really can't argue the point. I don't, however, know if Bansky is a good comparison, since I think some of his works hint at underlying social commentaries in a way that I don't imagine colored dots can.
    Put another way, McDonald's is the most successful hamburger, but it damn sure isn't the best hamburger.

    The fact that people drop big money on a Pollack or a Rothko buttresses your point (again, assuming commercial success is your metric), but does not by extension counter mine, as people with money spend it on many garish and tasteless things. Also, while I'm not a fan of Rothko, I'd argue that his composition is a little more nuanced and complex than is Hirst's.

    Mike

    P.S. ...and for the record, Warhol totally sucks ****- he was an artist in the same way that the Spice Girls or NSync are bands.

    I just don't get modern art.
     
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    so i take it you don't like modern art like this??? lol


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    I do not; I just don't get it.

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    I happen to love Hirst's work. He's not "conning" anyone - his work is just what it appears to be. There's literally no confusion. The creativity all happens in the brain. A brush on canvas is just craftsmanship - important, no doubt, but not where the art is. The art is all conceptual. And if you think the dot paintings are all there is to Hirst, you could learn more. Go to Rancho Santa Fe near San Diego, just to pick one of many possible examples, and check out his spectacular butterfly mandala at the Rancho Valencia spa. Unbelievably beautiful and poignant.
     
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    To me that is not so much art as it is a technical mastery. So, more technician than artist, but yes an artist.

    Most of his stuff annoys me, some is fantastic.


    Here are three of my favorite pieces. I was just in Paris to see the fishing boat piece again (Sorrolla) but it was in storage! I did see the pilgrims though. The Basquiat I've never seen. They are all very large pieces.

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    Damien Hirst has a public museum-like gallery in central London, the Newport Street Gallery. It's beautifully designed and built, entrance is free. The museum showcases the work of artists other than Damien Hirst, so it's not so much a vanity project as a statement by the artist that he supports the work of others. Hirst has been supportive of many artists, starting with his own 'school' of YBA (New British Artists). As Hirst's funds grew, he branched out and supported other artists by buying their work.

    That Hirst uses assistants to complete some of his work is not unusual. The practice goes back centuries. At the height of his career, Rubens used dozens of assistangs, including specialists in cloud or water effects, good animal painters and so on. So when Rubens received a commission, he orchestrated a small army of talent to create his images.
     

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