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This Ferrari Enzo V12 Crate Engine For Sale Is Ready for the Ultimate Engine Swap

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by NYC Fred, Nov 9, 2022.

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  1. NYC Fred

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  2. willcrook

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    stick it in a 599 ;)
     
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  3. Marcel Massini

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    It's not out of an Enzo. It is a spare/replacement Enzo engine that has never been in an Enzo.

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  4. INRange

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    just a few bitcoins should do it......
     
  5. crinoid

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    Stick it in a 85 TR.
     
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    Tell Sotheby's. I just cut and paste.
     
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  7. NürScud

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    There is a tuner in the UK (Simpson Motorsport) that converted a V8 F40 into a V12. Now, imagine the same engine conversion, in the same car but with a newer V12. Not a big fan of this but imagine! However, i'm not sure if the F140B V12 is bigger in dimensions than the older V12.

    https://simpsonmotorsport.com/projects/ferrari-f40-v12/
     
  8. PAUL500

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    The funny thing is that however rare and desirable it is, fit it to an actual Enzo and the car would be devalued far more than the actual value of the engine!
     
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  9. PAUL500

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    A V12 is far to long to fit in the engine bay with the standard F40 transaxle, you have to use a transverse gearbox as that gives more room to play with by pulling the engine back towards the driveshaft centre line, even with the 550/575 engine there is only about 15mm between the front of the engine and the firewall when using such, and ancillaries have to be moved about in order to slot in.

    I think an Enzo/599 engine would be too long as the front of those engines if far more complex to swap about.

    With enough ££££$$$$$$$$$ anything is possible though
     
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    Yes, it will be worth less than a matching numbers car, but not if fitted to a car with a blown unrepairable engine that's already devalued. The value can only go up. Also, fitting this unused engine, that's not from another car, will make it worth more than if a used engine from another car was fitted.
     
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  11. PAUL500

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    Bare replacement blocks are not numbered, unlike complete but unallocated engines. An owner of an Enzo with a blown motor would be better off rebuilding around such, then again how many have ever blown a motor, far more get wrecked then rebuilt as if nothing has happened! and retain their matching numbers anyway.
     
  12. miurasv

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    Ferrari had some Enzo engine failures that were said to be due to valve train/spring problems that caused piston damage where they replaced whole engines. Maybe there was resultant damage that was not limited to the cylinder block, but damage in the heads as well. Perhaps they just replaced the whole engine as a precaution but if the blocks and heads were repairable, with any design fault remedied, I'd have thought that's what they'd have done. Just speculation of course.
     
  13. PAUL500

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    I imagine the market reacts differently to work done under warranty as opposed to 20 years later. That engine would be a good source of spare components for an owner but I doubt the numbered block would ever be used in one.
     
  14. Stackhouse

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    Is this motor pre or post valve spring issue resulting in some motors being pulled and replaced back in the day? Curious if the new owner is going to be buying a defective motor ie $200k Coffee Table!!

    $2-300k estimate??? Whats an FXX motor going for these days?? I assume factory still provides spares and supports those for Challenge racers!

    If someone wants parts, would a 599 motor suffice? I assume there's gotta be some common components.
     
  15. iohead

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    The XX cars and the XX Programme have nothing to do with "Challenge".

    Think of Ferrari Challenge cars as the brand's entry-level track cars. They typically cost less than the street-legal cars they are based on. The Challenge series is Ferrari's customer-racing series for these cars in a few geographies.

    The XX cars are on the other end of the spectrum: they can cost many millions of dollars. They are proportionately expensive to maintain and repair too. Just the periodic engine rebuild of the Enzo-based FXX could cost more than what this crate engine might sell for.
     
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  17. willcrook

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    very expensive! not far off the original price for the car :)

    how different does the 599 engine look?
     
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    I'm smelling a rebirth of the Jerrari, if anyone remembers.....;)
     
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    Isn't the Purosangue just an updated version of the Jerrari? :D
     

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