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the Veyron is just 2 Audi V-8's?

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  1. TheMayor

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    So, I just saw a program on the internals of the Veyron and they said the W16 motor is just 2 Audi V-8s stuck together. How disheartening. Honestly, I was crushed.

    Is this true or just someone trying to simplify the situation. I thought at the price of a million bucks, you'd at least get an engine that didn't have most of the components from a parts bin.
     
  2. normv

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    #2 normv, Apr 9, 2010
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    Hello at least its not made from Legos. Dont worry 1000hp, 4 turbos Im sure it shares some architecture from Audi engines. Thanks Norm Watch the video its quite interesting!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWDSnWk2jU
     
  3. Driftracer3

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    It may sound like thats the story, but the configuration of a W16 is much different from a V8 by a huge amount. Thats like saying the Ferrari V8 is a pair of Fiat I4 together.
     
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    W16 is just a version of the modular family of engines developed by VW for some of their top brands.
    W8 was used in Phaeton (never in Audi),W12 in Audi A8 ,Phaeton and Bentley Continental and finally W16 used exclusively for Veyron.
    Whoever claims that W16 is made from two V8s has no idea what he's talking about.
     
  5. AlexO91

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    I'm sure the Phaeton has a W12.

    Oh and Jezza says that the Veyron has two Audi V8's.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp00GMA0LBY 4:40 he says it. And don't say he know's nothing because how successful he is just goes to shows that he does know what he's on about.
     
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    I wouldn't worry about the W16 being related to a humble motor. I have read, however, that the original Audi V8 (from the late '80s) was just two VW GTI 4 cylinder motors.
     
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    You did not read my post ,listed A8,Phaeton and Continental as having W12s.
    Jezza is not a God and he is simplifying a bit too much in this case.
    Do you think he would call the W12 a 1+1/2 Audi V8?
    Besides,Audi never had a W8 and W16 has nothing in common with the V8.
     
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  9. MHK69

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    absent is spot one here. I would just like to add the VW W8 engine was also used in the Passat. In fact I think this was the first application of this engine in 2002. I've been running my Passat W8 wagon since 2005 and this engine is so smooth quite and powerful, it's a shame they didn't continue to develop it, because it has proved to be a maintenance/warranty nightmare for VW

    The Phaeton and Bentley models' chassis was also designed at the time to be a shared platform. Some confuse the Audi A8 using the same chassis as the Bentley, the Audi is an all aluminum platform, whereas the VW/Bentley is steel based.

    One thing also to note, is that the original W8 engine is basically 2 banks of the VR6 engine spliced together. It's this reason why the W series of engines are so compact and the engine bay of the Passat can accommodate the W8.


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    All true.
    I forgot about Passat having that engine first.
    Wasn't it a 4Motion?
     
  11. MHK69

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    Yes that's correct, the W8 was only available as a 4motion.

    These engines really are superb, for their high power and small size with great fuel consumption. Just don't tell any Bugatti owner that the origins can be traced back to the VR6 gti!
     
  12. BusDriver

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    #12 BusDriver, Apr 11, 2010
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    The W8 engine was only available in the Passat. Never in the Phaeton, which used an Audi V8, or any other model. The Veyron W16 is indeed two W8's joined lengthwise.

    BTW, the W8 has a flat-plane crank - and therefore, a unique sound, esp for a Passat.
     
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