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The Perils of Personalizing Your $500,000 Ferrari

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  1. Texas Forever

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    From Bloomberg

    Resale values for the supercar brand are coming under pressure, and not just because wealthy clients made poor customization choices.

    Ferrari NV became Europe’s most valuable automaker by increasing sales volumes and prices while persuading customers to purchase lots of expensive options. But now its finely tuned business model is showing signs of wear.

    While new vehicle orders extend well into 2026, nearly new sports cars are piling up in the used market. The Italian manufacturer has put part of the blame for weaker resale values on the esoteric choices of its wealthy clients, which I think is a bit cheeky.

    Some options, such as special paintwork, are “maybe not so appreciated by the second client,” Chief Executive Officer Benedetto Vigna told investors in August, citing an analysis of 20,000 used transactions. In contrast, “functional” personalization choices maintain their value, he added, insisting overall residual values remain “strong.”

    No one will shed tears for the super-rich losing money because they picked a hideous supercar spec — it’s the definition of a first-world problem and a good advertisement for wealth taxes. But one shouldn’t forget Ferrari has profited handsomely from clients customizing cars to the max. Many clients are now facing a big financial hit when selling their vehicle, and not just because they picked unappealing options.

    A few decades ago, almost all new Ferraris were red; nowadays, the percentage is just 40%. Classic Rosso Corsa is still a safe choice for a first-time buyer, but collectors want a vehicle reflecting their unique tastes and may prefer more adventurous hues like Bianco Artico or Verde Toscana — shades of white or green to the non-cognoscenti.

    Ferrari is only too glad to satisfy this demand for personalization, which accounts for almost one fifth of its vehicle and spare parts revenue. This financial windfall has helped the prancing horse overtake European automotive peers in market value while selling fewer than 14,000 vehicles a year.

    There are several tiers for Ferraristi wanting a bespoke vehicle, including being doted on at an atelier, or participating in the more exclusive Tailor Made program in Maranello, Shanghai or New York where a team of experts led by a personal designer assists in making every element of the car unique. While the company tries to accommodate customer wishes, there are limits: Hot pink is a no-no, whereas arresting tones like Bronzo Masaru or Viola Hong Kong — metallic bronze and purple — are acceptable, for a price.

    Exterior, interior and technology options can easily add six-figures to the already eye-watering purchase price. A panoramic roof for the £313,000 Ferrari Purosangue SUV costs around £13,400, while special two-layer paint is £22,500, for example. An airbrushed Scuderia shield on the sides of the vehicle will set you back £9,500, while a Tricolore livery stripe is more than twice that much. These extras are listed on a plaque in the cargo area, so the buyer can show off what they’ve purchased — though regrettably the prices aren’t shown. (But if you’re curious about how to spec a luminous green Pursosangue with £120,000 of options, there’s a full breakdown here.)

    “Ferrari encourages clients to spec vehicles like crazy to get one of the first delivered, they invite them over to the factory and more often than not they get carried away spending fortunes on options,” Tom Jaconelli, a director at UK supercar dealer Romans International, told me. “But a lot of that value is instantly diminished.”

    Personalization isn’t necessarily a poor investment. Without sought-after features like a front suspension lifter (which helps avoid damaging the vehicle when driving over bumps), vehicles won’t stand out in a crowded used market.

    Ferrari offers a long list of ways to add lightweight carbon fiber to its vehicles, with each exterior body panel or interior element costing thousands of pounds. These carbon finishes are retaining more of their value compared with other types of tailoring, Ferrari told me; while there’s no direct correlation between personalization and residual values, vehicles “rich in customization” and “closely aligned with the car’s spirit” are “more sought after in the market” the company said.

    Well, maybe. I agree that lavishly customizing a limited-edition Ferrari might make financial sense, because these models tend to appreciate and some are destined for museums. But heavily personalizing a regular model might be asking for trouble because options are inherently subjective; one buyer’s dream car is another’s horror show. And good luck persuading a second-hand buyer that the gaudy paintwork you fell in love with is worth an extra £22,000.

    The Italian company deliberately maintains long waiting lists to reinforce exclusivity, and earning the right to purchase limited-edition models requires a long purchase history. Ferrari says expensive customization does not influence vehicle allocation, which is rather determined by when the order is placed. Still, I suspect some wealthy clients splash on options anyway, either because they’re unbothered by resale values or they’re hoping to gain favor with Ferrari headquarters and their dealer, whose commissions are partly determined by the personalized options they sell.

    Almost 75% of the new vehicles sold by the company in 2023 went to existing Ferrari clients, and an astonishing 40% to current owners of more than one of its vehicles. These loyal customers couldn’t lose during the pandemic when a shortage caused used prices to soar, but placing repeat orders to climb the Ferrari loyalty ladder might now require taking a hit on depreciation.

    Clients were required to own a £376,000 hybrid SF90 Stradale to have the opportunity to purchase a limited edition SF90 XX costing more than £670,000 (before options); there are now many of the former for sale, and they’re rapidly losing value, as I explained here. Similarly, Romans International is marketing a Roma Spider with £120,000 of options. The original owner never intended hanging on to it long-term and sold soon after delivery, taking a loss of £80,000.

    Strong residual values are vital to Ferrari’s business model; even loyal customers may tire of losing money on their exotic habit eventually and either cancel existing orders or decline to place new ones. While the UK market is particularly weak — second-hand hybrid 296s and SF90s are available for around 30% below list price — the US and Germany also look well supplied — perhaps too well.

    Ferrari said the volumes of vehicles for sale “does not suggest any critical issues,” with order cancellations consistent with historic trends; requirement to purchase multiple vehicles haven’t triggered a high volume of resales. Models such as the SF90 and Roma coupes have been phased out or are nearing the end of production, which should support resale values. Meanwhile, Ferrari is trying to ensure more of its vehicles are handled by certified dealers, allowing it to better influence used pricing and supply.

    My advice to prospective customers is simple: Pimping your new Ferrari can be fun — but don’t get too carried away.
     
  2. rob lay

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    ********, they won't admit it, but Ferrari pushed a step too far, they got greedy with the customer set that made them and the new customer set isn't as durable through economic turns. a big piece of that is they wanted the game to continue, but they didn't want anyone but them to win the game. the problem is the only reason people played the game to begin with, is because they were winning.
     
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  3. vrsurgeon

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    Something something about money buys taste... until it doesn't. :) Wealthy clientele with a red/green color blindness comes to mind with some of the **** that I see for sale.

    But.. it's not just Ferrari. Porsche is just as guilty. Or rather the dealerships are. There was this "ONE OF ONE" Gt3.. Plum with white/crema interior. I get that they wanted that guy who wants the only one of it out there so he can tell all his friends.. "It's one of one". I just thought how a simple color scheme would have really made it pop. Silver/Black.
     
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  4. NYC Fred

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    I guess its fine if you're buying the car...then resale is on you.

    How does a leasing company live with this? We've all seen some "personalized" cars that are a leetle out there...
     
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  5. Texas Forever

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    I know this sounds racist, but it is the Chinese influence. Have you looked at new BMWs?
     
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  6. Texas Forever

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    Frankly, I'm amazed at Ferrari. How a company that hates its customers can be so successful is beyond me.
     
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    In the dealers we said it for years. Give the clientele too much latitude on cosmetics and you'll wind up with a lot of saleproof cars. There was a reason so many salesmen steered buyers to red. No one said no to red.
     
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    My dealer has been looking for an F8 for me for a bit. It’s been very hard to find a car with a lifter, premium sound and CarPlay, in a decent color combo.
     
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    Perfect example of the original post... see? I hear you say you're looking for an F8 with premium sound and CarPlay... I find that absurd and it blows my mind..I don't even know if the radios work in any of my Ferraris... Kinda upsets me that they even have a radio... Completely worthless to me. guess that's why there are options.

    oh, and the plum Porsche with Cream interior? THAT would be my spec for SURE.. and yet, someone posted above as if that was a bad choice. Weird. Sounds perfect to me.
     
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  10. U-Boat Commander

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    Rob, there's three problems today. One is Ferrari is selling too many cars and they are selling them to people who can't really afford them.

    Two, the specs have gotten way too out there. You've got guys walking into Tailor Made who lack taste and don't know when to stop. They might be great at finance, business, medicine or whatever. But they are not good at design. And the first specs they show you at Tailor Made are usually pretty out there and then they push you to go further. It's too easy to rack up $250K of options on what turns out to be a monstrosity.

    Third, with a few exceptions, it's no longer desirable to keep the cars long term. They're disposable. Used to be in the past you could buy a Ferrari and say to yourself I'll probably keep this car forever. Today, nobody wants to own a hybrid car when the battery needs replacing. The SF90 and 296 are prime examples. So many of those for sale today. It's crushing the values. On the other hand, look at the 812 GTS, which is still in demand.
     
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    Radio in F8 is a valid request though, given the relative anemic engine sounds.
     
  12. rob lay

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    you would understand it better than anyone, spot on!
     
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    any road worth driving is about an hour away in traffic, I needs it.
     
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    People don't know when to stop... someone recently posted a younger gentlemen speccing his first ferrari, a late build SF90 and despite asking prices he picked enough to go over 620k. To his credit, he scoffed at the price to get your paddles with a dreamline/painted and said he'd do it himself.

    While some don't start at all, remember that early production Rosso 296 (?) that popped up on Bring A Trailer with zero total options
     
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    Just like people who build their own ‘castle’ and can’t give it away when it comes time to sell. They have no clue on the consideration of resale value. Just because you think it is cool you can bet nobody else does.

    Street rods are the same way; nobody else has your vision or cares.

    And in our world of every car is black, white or grey/silver the more bland it is the easier it is to sell.
     
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    Will the stock keep climbing though?
     
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    Re: valid request. Haha, not in my Ferrari world:). I have owned my 458 for 9 years and think I have used it twice (same with the others I’ve owned) and that was sitting in the garage cleaning the interior. To use it never really comes to mind but, in my other cars its a different story.
     
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  18. Texas Forever

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    One of the things you guys are missing is Ferrari sales suck. I couldn't duplicate the charts, but there are 173 296 GTBs sitting on US dealers lots. There are 171 Romas. There are 142 SF90. There are 102 812 GTS. This doesn't look good.
     
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    Ferrari dealers have never cared a whole lot about the used inventory. They are selling the new ones. The few they take on trade for ridiculously low numbers they don't mind sitting on. Those cars also have very reasonable asking prices (not the one on the website), but when you walk around with sales your jaw will drop when they tell you what it can be actually bought for, especially since their website price is 20-30% higher. Now all that other inventory are mostly consignments and they look good on the floor and website, I'm not even sure how motivated they are to sell those?
     
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    I'm told the consignment days are over. Those are mostly dealer cars. You know, there was time in the early '90s when cars would sit on the dealer lots for months and months.
     
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    interesting, I hadn't heard that, I would think they would always want to consign vs. holding the inventory. It also makes customers happy who would rather only take a 20% haircut instead of a 40% one.
     
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    That's what I was told. I could be wrong. I think I was wrong once, but I don't remember.
     
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    The radio comments reminded me of a 2009 Scuderia order or two. This being Ferrari Chat where everyone now knows everyone else's business it created a bit of a problem. One client factory ordered his Scuderia and successfully deleted the radio. This was noted as a rather unique choice and Ferrari had gone along with it. The client received his no radio car and shared it here. Someone else thought that the 'radio delete' was a great idea and submitted their Scuderia order. However Ferrari said no you have to have the radio, no choice period.
    Then there was another client who wanted stripes on his Scuderia. The new car arrived with the wrong paint color on the stripes. So your Scuderia is here, take it or leave it. The owner took delivery and flipped it. Ferrari Chat continues to give a great and knowledgeable perspective on all things Ferrari!
     
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    This is wrong. There are several dealerships (including some of the largest volume dealerships in the country) who will only handle consignment sales. They will not purchase used inventory. If the market changes, this might change for some (but not all) of those dealerships.
     
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    I recently drove the dealer Purosange - not a car for me, but what the hell, and it had well over $100K of options.... and listed at over $600K ???? for a suv? The Old Man must be laughing in his grave.
     
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