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"The Lamborghini Miura" by Simon Kidston

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  1. stevewak

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    It is on the home page and has been since June. Send an email to register your interest please.
     
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  2. Rosey

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    Yes, you are correct. On the home page.
    Heard it is in the UK Pound 15,000 range.
     
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  3. bloomberg

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    Now look at this!
    Did he sell the first copy for £2,500.00 , and then persuade another customer to sell another to him?
    Or (as I believe), did he just buy a bunch from Kidston at retail, expecting to flip them for a very nice profit.
    Look at the very expensive Bentley book from Palawan. Palawan released another 6 copies for £1,000.00 (all sold). Now Horton's offers two copies for
    £4,500.00 each.

    THE LAMBORGHINI MIURA
    This book is one of the fastest selling motoring books of all time.It came and went in under two weeks.The book is truly magnificent and was certainly worth the wait.This particular example came from a customer that had bought two copies and I have managed to persuade him to sell one to us which is how we can now offer this elusive book for sale.It is expensive but it is brand new and I doubt if most of the other examples will ever come for sale any time soon.If you have a Miura, are thinking of buying a Miura or just love the Miura this is a book you should own.It is better than money in the bank.Buy it now and enjoy it and see the price rise over the next few years

    Ben Horton

    • STOCK: In Stock
    • AUTHOR: Simon Kidston
    • ISBN:9781527261174
    • PUBLISHER: Kidston SA
    • PUBLICATION YEAR:2020
    • EDITION:1st Edition
    • LANGUAGE:English
    • PAGES:454
    • ILLUSTRATIONS:Black & White and Colour
    • FORMAT:Hardback published without dust jacket
    • SLIPCASE:Yes
    • LIMITED EDITION:762 copies
    • CONDITION BOOK:Fine
    • CONDITION SLIPCASE:Fine
    £3,250.00
    Ex Tax: £3,250.00
     
  4. Rosey

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    Wow!!
    The fact that he is not showing the book number is of interest.
    I agree, I think they bought a few at RRP off the publisher and are now cashing in.
     
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  5. Nembo1777

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    The question is how many were actually printed.
     
  6. Rosey

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    How could there be more than 762 copies. The world is a small place with the internet these days.
    If it's found there are more than two numbers of the same number it's just not worth doing for reputation and legal reasons.
     
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  7. bloomberg

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    It takes many good deeds to build a reputation, and only one bad one to lose it (Ben Franklin). I do not know Kidston cs in person, but I cannot imagine that he would engage into the nonsense of printing more than stated. The guy does not need that!
     
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  8. Nembo1777

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    Just a question, for now.
    Has anyone seen another numbered book where the numbering is by...pencil...such as in this book, as opposed to a proper way to do it by engraving labelling or printing a number? Legitimate question, thanks in advance.
     
  9. Marcel Massini

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    Pencil? Huuu?

    Marcel Massini
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    Some publishers print a certain number of books as limited and numbered and then on top of that (at the same time or in the same run) print another couple thousand without any numbers at all and without the word limited etc. The latter will then come to market a couple months later.
    No surprise whatsoever.

    Marcel Massini
     
  11. Nembo1777

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    Precisely my point, thank you Marcel:)

    I can just imagine the printer saying "You want just 762 copies? Is that a joke?"
     
  12. bloomberg

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    My copy has a pencil number :(
     
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    #38 Nembo1777, Dec 4, 2020
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    Well at least you have a copy.

    I did half the work in the book 2007-2008 during an extremely intense period, delivered it April 2 2008 and had to wait.....twelve years....for it to come out this summer because he could not ever get his act together...only to be told extremely callously with zero apology his office screwed up and did not save me a copy.....

    Good night I am now going to try to watch a movie, relax, take a sleeping pill to not add yet another sleepless night to the 100 plus this, the worst experience of my professional life, caused.

    TWELVE YEARS....
     
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    That is appalling treatment Marc. I empathize with with you on this. Kidston certainly should have made an effort to make things right with you, especially since it was his/their screw up. I've run into other problems with helping and doing work with and for some other individuals and companies over the years, only to get screwed by them. Hence there are very few now that I will bother to talk to when they try to contact me.
     
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  15. gt4me

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    That is very poor, hopefully he'll send you one of the Gold edition or whatever they'll be called when their released.
     
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  16. NürScud

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    This is really annoying. I can feel your frustration at all. Been in that position....

    Here is one that showed up today

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/147599019/
     
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  18. Rosey

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    Maybe they used the same book makers as Porter Press's Ferrari 250 GTE book, they only made 750 of those too. :)

    Unless Kidston dumps a whole lot of non numbers Miura books on unsuspecting bookshops around the world there is no way of ordering them off him in any case as the website is clearly showing OUT OF STOCK and there is no way of placing an order or paying for one.
     
  19. rynoshark

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    Printers are happy to make whatever quantity you want, as long as you are willing to pay. The setup costs are very high for offset printing, so book publishers usually try to print larger runs to average out the cost across all the books. A print run of a very high-quality book under 1,000 copies is not unusual these days.
     
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    Yes and for my own books the number printed has always been about 20% more than expected initial demand, though one of them (Maserati the Citroen years 1968-1975) sold out anyway! Having known SK for 20 years I just don't believe he had only 762 books printed. However it is not breaking any law or anyone's trust, to state only 762 were put to market even though you printed more. It is a publisher's right to hang on to remaining ones.

    The ethical question comes when the remainder comes to market some time later. But giving them as gifts to clients is acceptable (because that is a private as opposed to public matter). For example when I was traveling back and forth from the Geneva office to Modena to interview factory old timers he had me bring back a borrowed original Miura SV owners manual. A few weeks later there was a bag in his office full of new ones, in glossy color, perfectly bound, impeccably made and indistinguishable from a real one. They were not advertised though that would have been factory copyright breach, I think he gave them to SV owning clients.
     
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    I really would like to ask the seller if he thinks we are stupid or if he is the stupid. Can't really justify those.. those mere speculations.
     
  23. Marcel Massini

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    As always in life, it is just about finding a victim.........

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  24. Nembo1777

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    Finding a "punter" as they say in the British isles, horrible conman's word meaning naive sucker customer.
     
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