The halo...has anyone besides me else noticed....

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I've posted pics of possible saves by the Halo in the past.

One of them was Alonso in the Mclaren.a couple of years ago.

Another was in F2 I believe . Japanese driver also a couple of years ago.

 

They likely figured Formula E was gay enough as is. (That's an older term meaning silly if you didn't already know.)

 

I hate the look of the halo. But my goodness it works! Well done to F1 for pushing it through against the weight of popular opinion. Halo is here to stay. I better get used to it...

 

Formula E HAS the Halo.

 

I've never doubted of its utility, but, God, still looks horrible like the first day. FIA knows it and bothered to redesign it for 2022.

 

Lets face it, I would say it has more than justified its case to be on the car, especially on this occasion , I figure we could have been looking at a very nasty outcome without it.
Going against fans and drivers sentiments, and putting aside the cars aesthetics was the right thing to do, but I do get the reasons for its dislike.
However this bastard virus still remains the main enemy.

 

I posted that April 2018 not sure maybe I didn’t see it or they weren’t in he cars yet

 

Formula E has the Halo on currently.

 

Don't forget Helmut Koinigg, Watkins Glen 1974.....

 

Yes I mentioned the poor man a couple of days ago. One prominent person in Ferrari US publishing saw his accident happen and got spooked pretty much permanently.

 

Uh, I just googled the name and found pictures that shouldn't be on the internet.

 

Absolutely right, that is the ugly side of the internet. Everything, unfiltered, no common sense or decency.

 

Or François Cevert same track.

 

Does anyone know exactly how long Grosjean was in the car after it came to rest? I've read that it was about 30 seconds...but it felt longer when watching it. I thought by viewing the footage I could time it, but there doesn't seem to be a continuous piece of video that shows it with out a cut. I was also against the halo but it really earned the right to be there. It looked to me that it was the halo that it may have helped the front of the car cut through the barrier so that the front of the car got all the way through and gave Grosjean the room needed to get himself out. Also the quality of the suit and helmet kept his burns and smoke inhalation to a minimum. I wonder how he lost one of his shoes. I wouldn't be surprised, nor blame him, if he missed the last race of the season as well. Certainly come to the track, but not get in the car unless he is really in 100% shape.

 

I know Halo is now all the rage but I haven't seen any comments anywhere re: Grosjean's typical first lap antics? What exactly was he doing cutting across like that?

 

It was 29 seconds. That's how long Grosjean was in the fiery inferno before he got rescued.

 

They showed one continuous replay from the helicopter – the replay was shown approximately 25 minutes after the start of the race. It was in real time (or so I believe), but the helicopter went “behind” the car/fire/smoke, so it is not possible to determine exactly how long Grosjean was in the car – but I have made the following observations:

About 10 seconds after the point of impact the medical car stops at the scene. About 22 seconds after impact the fire around the cockpit is suppressed – which allowed Dr. Ian Roberts to help Grosjean away from the car. And finally, about 28 seconds after impact Grosjean is well clear of the car. Due to the angle of the camera Grosjean is a coupe of meters away from the car at this point. My guess is that Grosjean was out of the car about 25 seconds after the impact.

From the other replays we know, that Grosjean was already getting out of the car at the 22 second mark. The replay also seems to show, that the fire suppression system in the cockpit worked – so Grosjean was not sitting in fire for very long. It seems that the majority of the fire was “behind” or on the underside of the car.

As for the shoe I don’t know – but it was missing when he got out of the car.

 

This video says 32 seconds. I've read 29 seconds.

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Wow it never ceases to amaze me how he walked out of that relatively unscathed, credit to all concerned that helped and the cars safety engineering in keeping the driver safe in such circumstances excellent.

 

Well, that video starts 1 second before impact, and at the 30 second mark you can see Grosjean well clear of the car... If it is 28 or 29 seconds does not matter - but it was certainly not 28 seconds sitting in fire.

Anyway, all these things will become clear when the investigation is finished.

 

Even with the car's fire surpression system, he was in the middle of flames long enough for his visor to become blackened and show signs of deformation from the heat, at least the safety car doctor said so. It also looked has if Grosjean's suit suffered heat/flame damage...the man with the fire bottle was spraying him as they were getting him away from the car. But his helmet kept flames out and that must have protected his lungs. Who makes the drivers suits...one manufacturer or several?