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The FIA will look at IndyCar's rule

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  1. singletrack

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    Yah that is quite nice.
     
  2. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Yah the rule just makes sense from my personal perspective in terms of racing karma. All the other stuff people are reading into it, I have no opinion on honestly.
     
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  3. william

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    I hope the FIA will look into that proposal and not kick it in the long grass.

    Unfortunately ideas don't get the scrutiny they deserve sometimes, because people simply don't like the messenger.
     
  4. furoni

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    I hope for once the FIA won't be stupid and forget about TOTo Bs, because we already have enough stupid rules as it is, the last thing we need is something to deter drivers from giving their best, it's already bad enought they have to save tire and fuel insted of running full speed, qualifying is the only part were they can give it full beens, we don't need some smart ass trying to stop them from doing it...and people still wonder why so many complain about the sport...
     
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  5. pilotoCS

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    F1 racing is a TV show that is allotted a specific amount of time by the various broadcasters around the globe. Most aren't too keen on waiting long periods of time for barriers to be replaced (as an example) when it's time for the next regularly scheduled program to start.
     
  6. Mitch Alsup

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    But this is why there should be FEWER red flags!
     
  7. pilotoCS

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    Safety is why red flags come out. Schedule be damned.
     
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  8. DF1

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    He added that if an IndyCar-style rule - whereby drivers causing red flags are docked their two fastest times - were introduced in F1 then drivers would be careful not to "drive over your possibilities".

    Speaking to Sky F1, Alonso said: "It was messy, it was difficult to get into the rhythm, into the pace, but it was the same for everybody.

    "I think we didn't use all the potential of the car because every time we put a new set of tyres, we didn't use it.

    "[It is] unfair probably that the people that crashed, they repair the car and they start in that position tomorrow.

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    "All the other cars, we are in parc ferme until tomorrow, we cannot touch the car, so why they can change all the parts that they caused the red flag?

    "Maybe one day we are in that position and we take advantage of the rule.

    "I think the people need to calm down a little bit and drive 98% in a street circuit because if you crash and you start last in the race, maybe you don't drive over your possibilities.

    "And I think today with so many people driving over the possibilities of their car or their abilities."
     
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  9. william

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    There is some truth in what he says.
     
  10. DF1

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    F1 should be open and assess this rule or how something similar could be used as in other series. Never hurts to assess.
     
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  11. pilotoCS

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    As long as they are asking IndyCar what works and what doesn't they should ask about how they provide much greater fan access to the paddock. At the ticket prices they (F1) charge, they should be downright ashamed how restrictive they are to the most important people to the sport - the fans.
     
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  12. william

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    Alonso has a valid point about the parc ferme restrictions which are lifted overnight if you have to repair a damaged car, but not afforded to the other cars.
     
  13. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Yes an issue of 'fairness' should be reviewed. Does not harm to re-evaluate policy.
     
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  14. 4rePhill

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    If a driver is found to have deliberately caused a yellow/double waved yellow/red flag situation, as Michael Schumacher appeared to do in Monaco, then yes the driver should be punished.

    But, if the driver simply makes an error whilst pushing hard, as Charles LeClerc did in Monaco, then no, the driver shouldn't automatically be punished.

    The problem with punishing a purely accidental yellow/double waved yellow/red flag situation is, where do you stop dishing out punishment?

    You could end up with a myriad of punishments and deleted times throughout the grid, for various "offences" that happened to affect another driver's lap.

    Suddenly, you will no longer know what the grid will be after qualifying, because the stewards will spend all of Saturday evening/night sorting out the various penalties for drivers who brought out a yellow flag at any time.

    The idea of deleting a driver's fastest time for bringing out a flag situation is in reality, a knee-jerk reaction, to an issue that rarely actually occurs.

    And as Michael Schumacher's Monaco incident showed - The FIA already have rules to cover the situation.
     
  15. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    For Q3 they need to restart it. Allow others to compete. Fans deserve it!! Period!
     
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