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The Ferrari Horse. A simple question but I cant answer it...

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  1. TCT

    TCT Formula Junior

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    Is our beloved Cavallino a Male or Female?
     
  2. TexasMike

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    Cavallino means "little horse" so I would think that it could be a male or female..
     
  3. YellowbirdRS

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    The "Cavallino Rampante"
    The famous symbol of the Ferrari race team is a black prancing stallion on a yellow shield, usually with the letters S F (for Scuderia Ferrari), with three stripes of green, white and red (the Italian national colors) at the top. The road cars have a rectangular badge on the hood (see picture above) and this race logo on the side.

    On June 17, 1923, Enzo Ferrari won a race at the Savio track in Ravenna where he met the Countess Paolina, mother of Count Francesco Baracca, an ace of the Italian air force and national hero of World War I, who used to paint a horse on the side of his planes. The Countess asked Enzo to use this horse on his cars, suggesting that it would grant him good luck. The original "prancing horse" on Baracca's airplane was painted in red on a white cloud-like shape, but Ferrari chose to have the horse in black (as it had been painted as a sign of grief on Baracca's squadron planes after the pilot was KIA) and he added a canary yellow background as this is the color of the city of Modena, his birthplace. It is worth noting that the Ferrari horse was, from the very beginning, markedly different from the Baracca horse in most details, the most noticeable being the tail that in the original Baracca version was pointing downward.


    Count Francesco BaraccaFerrari has used the cavallino rampante on official company stationery since 1929. Since the Spa 24 Hours race of July 9, 1932, the cavallino rampante has been used on Alfa Romeos raced by Scuderia Ferrari.

    A similar black horse on a yellow shield is the Coat of Arms of the German city of Stuttgart. This horse motif comes from the origins of the city's name: it comes from Stutengarten, an ancient form of the modern German word Gestüt, which translates into English as stud farm and into Italian as scuderia. Stuttgart is the home of Porsche, which also uses the Stuttgart sign in its corporate logo, centred in the emblem of the state of Württemberg.


    Coat of arms of Stuttgart, GermanyFabio Taglioni used the cavallino rampante on his Ducati motorbikes, as Taglioni was born at Lugo di Romagna like Baracca, and his father too was a military pilot during WWI (even if not part of Baracca's squadron, as is mistakenly reported in some sources). As Ferrari's fame grew, Ducati abandoned the horse- perhaps the result of a private agreement between the two companies.


    Austrian Fuel StationsThe cavallino rampante is now a trademark of Ferrari. However, other companies use similar logos: Avanti, an Austrian company operating over 100 filling stations, uses a prancing horse logo which is nearly identical to Ferrari's.

    Many aspects of the cover design of the third Jamiroquai album, Travelling Without Moving, as well as the single Virtual Insanity and some single promos pay homage to the Ferrari logo.

    "stallion is a male horse that has not been castrated"
     
  4. TCT

    TCT Formula Junior

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    Male it is!


    and with his "John Thomas" still intact to finish off the description! :)
     
  5. 1ual777

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    No further questions to ask. End of story.
     
  6. miketuason

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  7. vm3

    vm3 Formula Junior

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    Thanks for the great story!
     
  8. starboy444

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    A Male horse is "Cavallo" in Italian, a female horse (Mare) is "Giumenta"....

    Technically a "Cavallino" is a small male horse.
     
  9. Ferrari250GTO

    Ferrari250GTO Formula 3

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    I thought it was a male, but then again there is no clear indicator on the badge................
     
  10. CavalloRosso

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    What exactly were you looking for? ;)
     
  11. Meister

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    Stallion = castrated

    Buy this account (on some level) "Stallion" is perhaps not the best way to go...castrated male/showy car = ineffective (sperm wise =)

    Cavallino, OTOH still implies young verile male, as such (potentially) potent, if you know what I mean.
     
  12. toggie

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    Nope.
    Gelding = castrated.
    Stallion = an uncastrated adult male horse, esp. one used for breeding.
     
  13. Meister

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    Sorry, I was going off info provided in a previous post.

    So much for banking on unfounded info....
     
  14. hg

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    The previous post is correct in stating that "cavallino" in italian = little male horse while a little female horse = "cavallina". No question...Ferrari's cavallino is a stallion.
    Cavallino refers to the small horse depicted originally in the emblem of the Francesco Baracca's airplane, which is of course a smaller horse then in real life and therefore referred to "cavallino" just like you would refer to a small car model "modellino" and not "modello" which would imply a 1/3 or 1/2 scale model. Therefore referring, as an example, to the entire car you can appropriately say "il cavallo rampante" ha vinto ancora = has won again. Also, phonetically in the italian language it sounds better to say "il cavallino rampante" (this diminutive -ino- is precious) instead of "il cavallo rampante".
    Therefore, it is correctly translated in the english language as "prancing horse" and not "little prancing horse".
     
  15. GrndLkNatv

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    Since Pierro owns a controlling interest in the company...
     

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