The Fchat Exit Poll: Who DID You Vote For?

What’s up with their system is that the rich are controlling more and more of the economy. The guy in here who won’t go out and vote is wrong. But what Americans and Canadian really have to stop doing is playing the games that make the rich richer and richer. One of them is the stock market. It is well known that the stock market is controlled by the filthy rich who also control the media. All they do is put out a "lie" and people sell.....guess who’s buying? You got it. It’s just like standing near a tree and shaking out the fruit. People have to stop playing the stock market game. Is it just me or does anyone else find it strange that with all the rip-offs that have happened in the USA that nobody seems to end up in Jail despite the US having the highest incarceration rate in the world? I could go on and on but if you really want to see whets happening in the USA or at least one huge part of the problem just watch the movie "inside job" and then you will ask yourself WTF is going on down there and why are none of these guys in jail? If one looks back in history, you will find strange parallels in Germany in the 30s. People put blind faith in their govt and followed through with atrocities simply because they were made to believe the world was evil. It also amazes me that the series "the Kennedy's" that is now playing in Canada on the History channel is banned in the US. I wonder why.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pri_per_cap-crime-prisoners-per-capita
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The more I read about Michael Ignatieff, the more I get scared at the thought of this guy even having a chance to be Prime Minister. The one thing he has going for him is the fact that this election campaign is very short.The longer the campaign the more we would learn about this guy and it isn’t good. More and more things are coming out such as the Toronto Suns depiction of him today and his involvement in the decision making leading up to the invasion of Iraq. This man was born in Quebec, Canada and his parents were Russian. He leaves his family to teach at Harvard. He is absent from Canada for 37 years and while away praises the Bush Govt. and puts down Canada. The fact that he is now running for Prime Minister is downright scary. One can’t help but wonder if there are some American ties here that have not yet been uncovered. If the countries were reversed here, would Americans put up with someone like this running for President? I doubt it. This is all the more reason why we have to get out and vote on Monday May 2nd. Don’t take a Conservative victory for granted. If the Liberals and Michael Ignatieff get in, we may be in for some real problems, worse than we may even imagine. So get out and vote. Make sure your friends get out and vote. Michael Ignatieff is a real danger to our country and what it stands for, more so than you might think. Here is a video or more like sound bites of Iggy. Inparticular, listen to the part that starts at 3:38 to 3:54 and then you cant help but ask yourself, WTF is this guy doing running for Prime Minister of our country?

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http://www.thespec.com/news/canada/article/519586--1-in-3-canadians-don-t-have-enough-money-to-cover-expenses-survey

"Nearly one-third of Canadians that responded to a recent survey backed by a major Canadian bank said they didn't have enough money to cover living expenses.

An online survey completed for TD Canada Trust (TSX:TD) found that 54 per cent of the 1,003 people who answered said it was a real struggle or impossible to save."


As I said from personal observations and being all around the country, Canadians are flat out BROKE and not just that holding ridiculous levels of debt. The only thing floating Canada right now is $110 oil. I was out in Toronto on Sunday, CN tower restaurant empty at 930PM. Empty restaurants at this time in a major city?? Canadians have also surpassed the US for personal debt. When home prices collapse 30-60% all the imaginary wealth Canadians thought they had will vanish but the debt will not. Kool aid drinkers keep on drinking!

 

GerryD, post some credible sources. Wikipedia and nationmaster have 0 credibility or accuracy. I read once the majority of adults have the mental capacity and aptitude of 6th graders. Now I believe it.

 

Ignoramus number 2. Did the news tell you it was deregulation or did you manage to form that opinion yourself? The financial industry in the US is and was the most regulated out of any prior to the credit crisis. Government guarantees were what led to banks going out and making wreckless loans. I love how people with 0 concept how anything operates tend to chime in with opinions based on what they heard from another misinformed dinner colleague or the moving picture box in their living room. Greenspan operated as a pure socialist disguised as a capitalist. Regulations lead to consumers and investors being lazy and not doing due diligence because they blindly believe the government has done it for them. I have many friends in the financial sector in the US and the level of regulations is just absurd. Government policies encouraged wreckless lending and borrowing and discouraged savings and investment. Most of the loans made to low income households were started under Clinton. Banks were pushed to make loans to deadbeats. They didn't tell you that part on the TV now did they? Notice how the only solutions you are aware of are ones that involve MORE government?

Are you aware that Canadian government is actively involved in the mortgage market here? CHMC insures 1 trillion of mortgages with 8 billion of capital. Are you aware the last 5 years the average buyer has had 5-6% max equity in their homes compared to historical averages of 20%+? Are you aware that Canadian banks are holding $3 in cash for every $100 of loans on their books? Are you aware that Canada's bank act allows for 0% reserve requirements?


"A full out freedom creates..." Sir, are you living on another planet? Corruption only occurs when the government is involved in the free market. We have not HAD a free system in over 150 years in the US. All of the problems stem from government giving special privileges to certain groups or completely messing up natural market forces by interfering in the price system.

 

ingnoramus ???

you have zero respect now from me and anyone else in this section im sure-

i got news for you posuer -

i have a right to my point of view - weather you like it or not, you have no right at all to name call me or anyone else - personal attacks are a pure testament to an individuals LACK of INTELLIGENCE to debate - clearly - you get get your message across without name calling - Grow up - better still - go back and get your money back if you are somewhat educated.

you should be ashamed of yourself -

Vasco - this individual needs a time out , no need for this non sense in the CDN section.

 

Excuse me for your not seeing that those figures are in us dollars and our dollar then was way way lower. It has since climbed much higher and that would put us in the number one position today my friend. Its nice to see Americans with 31k disposable income but not so nice when they have to fork out over 30 percent of that for health care, excuse me but not all of them have to as some just cant afford to.
Tax freedom day is later for us because we take care of our own. The only time Americans take care of their own is on the battlefield. They never leave anyone behind....much different than everyday life where they couldnt give a rats ass about anyone but themselves. Canada is great and thats why so many want to live here unlike the good ol usa. Do you remember when Canada had 1/10 the US population? Check it out now. Strange how reports come out from all around the world about Canada being number 1 in so many areas including the banking system here. Its hard for Americans used to being told that they are number 1 for eons only to now be finding out that they have been lied to for decades.

 

I wouldnt worry too much as both these guys have been throwing names when they cant make any sense of whats happeing here or down there. Take it for all its worth....Zero.

 

typical answer from you
Still waiting.........

 

Alrighty, let us ALL take a step back and take a breather boys! It's only politics

crcs, has been given an extra-long, long weekend and hopefully come back Monday to participate with no name calling. Posts have been edited.

Thanks guys.

 

Keep dreaming and while you are on a vacation, try finding real facts instead of dreaming things up. Canada is doing just fine. Just one more sign that Americas' rich are taking their country for a ride is the fact that the stock market is going straight up when the USA is in major major difficulties. Does this not mean anything to you and what do you think will happen when it crashes? The USA built so many houses on speculation and loaned money to people that couldnt even afford a car let alone a house or an extra house. There are now 12million houses sitting empty in the USA. Is that not a problem. Every house being built in Canada is being bought and an actual person is moving into it. As for CMHC, below is a link so you can see a summary of financial results. BTW people dont go to the CN tower restaurant at 9pm on a sunday night....wake up man.

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/corp/about/anrecopl/upload/CMHC_AR2009_MDA-Summaryfinancialresults.pdf

 

Oh you know what im talking about. Please take a look around and see how many americans are living in trailers. When I go back and forth to Tampa international I see a huge neighborhood of shanty homes made out of plywood on the side of veterans hwy 589. There are hundreds of people living in squalor at this location. You wont find a location similar to that anywere in Canada. Next time down Ill pull over and post a pic. There are thousands of poeple living in those conditions similar to a 3rd world country all over the US. Many just turn a blind eye. The health care system down there is a joke and the only reason they refuse to make it better is because it will cost many a few dollars more. That is what im talking about. Please tell us all where you go for your health care and what it costs you or are you one of the $50 million people the "has fallen through the cracks" and have no coverage whatsoever. Or maybe you are still covered here in Canada.

If only the USA would print as many food stamps as they do dollars. That would be the 8th wonder of the world.
And your "serious issues" "never donated a dime in your life" speaches are showing that it is you that has no clue.

Check out these recent pictures from around the Great USA. Are these people living the "American dream" or are they waiting for their food stamps?
The next stock market crash will show what america is really made of.

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The polls today show the NDP has overtaken the Liberals and if an election were held today that the Conservatives would take only 130 seats to the NDP 100 and the Libs 62.
Lets just say that this happens. If it did, then the Liberals would get rid of Iggy and guess who would replace him? You got it.....Bob Rae. Can anyone say NDP coalition govt? You can bet that the Libs and NDP would get together and rule with 162 seats against the Conservatives 130. The results would be disasterous for Canada. Canadians had better wake up and smell the welfare because these guys will feed the welfarites like crazy.....untill the money runs out. As for the businesses .... well they will run like hell.
Yes watch out because a Boob Rae/Jack Layton run Canada is a very very real reality.

 

Perhaps some of you need to read some proper news papers.

Everyday in the Globe are articles about all this that is being dicussed here. Every day it is pretty much the same story unfolding.
-The US is still in a reccession, with house prices falling
-Canada is doing better, not in a bubble, not the easy life either
-We have debt, they have crap loads more debt

Besides the election, all I can see us doing individually is to be money smart. Pay down your debts, that includes your mortgage. Keep you credit cards empty. When your done that fill up your RRSPS,save, invest etc... just stay out of debt.

The more of us that do so will make for a better economy. Going around screaming the sky is falling and shouting holy crap no one is in a restaurant on a Saturday night isn't going to accomplish anything. That's all bull****.

As my old man says, follow the money... you will always find the answer.

These were only from todays paper.

Home prices falling in most major U.S. cities
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/housing/home-prices-falling-in-most-major-us-cities/article1961134/

Canadain Home prices to ‘creep up’ this year
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/housing/home-prices-to-creep-up-this-year/article1981663/

Consumer confidence rests on housing market
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/consumer-confidence-rests-on-housing-market/article1999795/

Canadians take Carney’s debt warning to heart
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/canadians-take-carneys-debt-warning-to-heart/article1998341/

 

Latest polls show the NDP not only blowing the Liberals away but now closing in on the Conservatives 35, 30, 22. Canada is in for some real trouble as its looking more like the NDP who couldnt run a dog and pony show may soon be calling the shots here. Imagine a guy who wouldnt win a mayoral race in Toronto calling the shots for our country. Its getting bizzar unless people start coming to their senses before election day.

 

Not as much trouble as if Harper gets a majority. The same wonderful policies as the US has on many things that affect everyone of us will be implemented. Whatever the US (and its movie/music conglomerates) wants, Harper will bow down to.

E.g.: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5765/125/
E.g. the planned draconian intrusion into your privacy without oversight on your internet habits,
E.g. poorly though out copyright legislation that serves only to increase your costs while most of the money goes outside of Canada to European and US companies.

Just on copyright and internet spy legislation alone you should be very worried about a Conservative majority.

Gerrit

 

Harper doesn't give a hoot about what the people want in a minority situation. Just imagine how disastrous it would be it he had a majority. We can't let than happen.I'm delighted the NDP are moving up. The most recent polls also show this is not a 'flash in the pan' but genuine evidence that Canadians are fed up. We're screwed with Layton. We're Screwed with Iggy. We're royally screwed with Harper.

 

If anyone is that worried about internet privacy they should be using a VPN service. The Internet is hardly private and monitoring has been happening for ages.

 

Ah, that's right, more business for someone? Harper's proposal includes warrant-less access to your data. More to come.
VPN is not the answer, it is a workaround. You think they won't mandate a back-door for the IP addresses that you are visiting? Dream on.

 

I'm not advocating Internet monitoring, but it already is happening regardless.
Your probably right there will be work arounds, however there are ways around those work arounds. The government is always behind when it comes to these things, on paper anyway. What they do already, or what they will do according to a bill will be child's play.

Tho it doesn't matter, if you think this is only a conservative thing then you will be in for a nasty surprise when the liberals or Ndp eventually do it. It's just a matter of time who does it. It's the future of the Internet.

 

Come on, when you look and listen to the 3 of them there is only one that looks and sounds like a Prime Minister. You think that Jack is going to be better but in reality the NDP if elected wouldn’t know whether to crap or wind their watch. Have you already forgotten what the NDP did to Ontario? They almost bankrupted this province and it was do as I say not as I do for Bob Rae. Oh yea how about the photo radar?

If you ever met Jack Layton and I have you will see in short order that he is a self serving SOB. His wife Olivia is anti everything law and order. Remember her hiding behind a tree watching OCAP idiots ripping up cobblestones at Queens Park and hurling them at Police?
For those that don’t know, Jack and Olivia ran up their expenses last year in Ottawa over a staggering 1 Million dollars well over what the Prime Minister spends. They were also caught living in subsidized housing more than once. If any of you are ever out around 787 Dundas street west, please check out what was once the "velvet touch" massage parlor and tell me that you could go in there at 9:30pm and not know that place was not a bawdy house?
There are other things I could tell you that I have knowledge of but won’t get in too deep except to say the Olivia would vote certain way on Toronto Council if you donated to Jacks Federal campaign. The NDP are slime and the Liberals couldn’t find their way up the DVP to the 401. Come on people get real and keep our country going forward like it is and hasn’t in many years. I’m not saying the Conservatives are perfect but they are our only choice right now.