The Dino cars

huh? The Dino Ferrari that was rebadged was the 308GT4. This was done because of slow sales due to the styling of the car, and the fact that the Dino name was not well knowen. Also the Ferrari dealers that were selling them were complianing of slow sales. So Ferrari decided to rebadge the cars with Ferrrai emblem's. But the door tag's on ALL 308GT4's say manufactured by Ferrrai S.P.A so they ARE Ferrari's just badged as Dino's in memory of his son. Ferrari dropped the Dino line with the introduction of the 308GTB/GTS.

 

GET OFF THE SAUCE, ASAP!!!!!

 

Frank, Frank, is that you?

 

Oh boy, here we go with the "a real Ferrari has only 12 cylinders" thread...



Keep in mind, Ferrari had numerous racing successes with 4, 6, 8 and currently 10 cylinder engines.

 

Not quite.

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26603

 

So the F-40 is a dino? The number of cylinders has nothing to do with it.

In a very loose interpretation, the Dino is to Ferrari what the 914 is to Porsche. Technically, it is not a Ferrari because the engine was built by Fiat.

To Enzo the production of the car was very personal. The high performance V6 was produced to commemorate his son, who died in 1956.

Dino suffered from muscular dystrophy and earned a degree in engineering. While bed stricken Dino, his father and Vittorio Jano designed a 1.5 liter racing engine. Dino’s design was written and published in Velocita, the Italian racing magazine.

5 months after his son died, Enzo developed the 156 engine. In fact, Ferrari developed an entire line of Dino engines over a 10 year period for Formula 1, Formula 2, sports racing and GT road cars.

Production started in 1969 at Scaglietti with the aluminum body 206GT. It was the first production run with cars having “even” chassis and the first not to have the Cavallino badge or Ferrari name on it. It simply had Dino GT on it. Any cars that did have a badge were added by the dealer, not the factory.

So…it is not the number of cylinders that makes a F-Car – a Dino has an engine built by Fiat and bears the name Dino.

 

Geez, I dunno, my Dino has internal badges all over it that say Ferrari, there's one sitting in the FERRARI Dealer up the street from me for sale, hmmm.....Drives like a Ferrari, sounds like a Ferrari, must be a Ferrari.
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The 246 Dinos had no Ferrari badges on them as they came from the factory. Many Dinos have had Ferrari and prancing horse badges put on them by owners and maybe even dealers.

However, to my knowledge, all of the design and engineering were done by Ferrari, including the design of the engine. I believe that the only work done outside of the normal Ferrari chain is the building of the engines by Fiat, in accordance with the Ferrari design. That engine was also used in the Fiat Dino.

As to racing pedigree, I believe that Ferrari has won F1 championships with V-10s, V-6s, flat 12s, and maybe V-8s, but it has never won the F1 championship with a V-12 (although it has won many sports car racing titles with the V-12).

However, I believe that the real test of whether or not the Dino is a Ferrari is the test of the marketplace. In this forum, the Dino is unquestionably considered to be a real Ferrari, as they sell for more than Boxers.

 

Some of the early glass 308s had "Dino" on their engine plate under the hood.

 

They do, however, have Ferrari badges inside them, which is the point I was trying to make. Engine compartment, door, etc.

Ferrari went to Fiat for manufacture of the engin in order to produce the 500 necessary in a short time fram to homologate it for racing. The engine was not much of a success on the track, but it does a hell of a job in this little Ferrari.

The original brochures read "Almost a Ferrari" in the copy. Enzo was trying to create a car that would compete with the 911 and be more affordable.

The 911S of the time is a little quicker, but, who can argue which car is beautiful, and which looks like a squashed bug.
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So the Dino occupied the same niche that Maserati does today.

BTW, I think on the VbD DVD Alain de Cadenet said that the V6 from the Dino went into the Lancia Stratos and won the World Rallye Championship for 2 years.

 

They're all FIATs just as Chevrolets are all GMs.

 

Are those US import labels? (Built as a Dino, imported as a Ferrari?)

That same V6 mill was used in the Lancia Stratos -- so Fiat didn't just build them for Ferrari.

 

dm_n_stuff, I gotta tell ya, I think you car is one of the prettiest ferraris I have ever seen the lines of those things never cease to amaze me..............



It has always seemed funny/disgusting to me that this, "the Dino is not a Ferrari" debate even exist.......... THE car that Enzo himself viewed worthy enough to be named in honor of his son (the son that he loved so much that he visited his grave EVERDAY, prior to going to the factory for the rest of his life) I can't even fathom how some people have the nerve to even ask such a question (is the Dino a REAL ferrari?) I'm sure Enzo would never have imagined such a controversy over this most personal decision of his...............IMHO it should be the other way around, is any other Ferrari worthy enough to be called a Dino ?.....................

 

Dave, i would like to have sex with your car...

 

"To Enzo it took 12 cylinders to earn the right to be called Ferrrari."

You knew him? He tell you that? How come he made 12 cyl. Dino's?

 

(Said in good humor) WOW! And all this time i felt Dino was Fred Flinstone's per dinosaur.

i don't care what the Dino is, it looks great to me.

 

He also made 6 cly formula 1 cars, but hey, I guess he did not consider them Ferraris either. Oops already stated above.

 

Ken- I owned an original, unrestored 246 GTS for many years, and I'm quite sure that Dave is right, as my car had exactly the same "Ferrari" stuff. Now the long "F" badge on the rear of my car was added by the dealer, but the "inside" stuff is original. FWIW, I've had several Ferraris over quite a few years, and that 246 was the prettiest to look at and, in some ways, the nicest to drive.

 

Don't get busted by the cops for vehicular sodomy.

 

"Son of Frank"

 

I agree; the 246 is one of my faves too. But unless you picked up your car in Italy, I still say the door badge that says "Ferrari" was also likely added by your dealer and not done at the factory. I wonder if anyone has a 'Dino" door tag?

Ken