The 296 is faster than the sf90

The draggier AF package on the SF90 seems to affect its high speed performance. Yet, the recorded numbers say otherwise compared to this video.

 

power to weight is very close. So I think its a mix of gear ratios and the V6 being pound for pound a better engine on rolling starts that is. But still very close on standing starts but clearly the SF90s AWD gives it the edge there.

 

I dont see any of them to be quiker, but if the title get the OP happy, so let it be…

VS will take care with about 50hp more and 80kg less weight, both of them…

 

Taking the official (dry weight) figures it is 1.57 hp/kg for the Stradale and 1.77 for the GTB. From a rolling start they were more or less equal, but I still maintain that a non AF pack car might be quicker at higher speeds.

Hopefully more.

 

Haha exactly, pointless title. Put Matt in SF90 and it’s a non event. I’ve had plenty of time in AF SF90 & AF 296 and the AF SF90 is quicker, not by much, but at these extreme levels, it would never be by much anyway..

 

It’ll be the same result. With a non AF package SF you’re probably looking at a dead heat race from a roll, and on a sticky dragstrip they’re also probably equal. My SF should be here in 6-weeks and I already own a 296, so I have no dog in this fight. The fact is these two are essentially equals in performance and I think it’s awesome.

 

Relatively speaking the 296 is by far quicker, cause it’s 200k cheaper.

 

Wondering if SF was in qualifying or performance mode (performance is about 830 hp only). SF is quicker in the drag but the test saw the 296 very slightly quicker from a roll (nothing in it really). With 1,000hp the SF should be quicker because the extra weight is already moving so the power difference should be decisive. The 4x4 is what ensures the SF gets off the line quicker, otherwise lower weight would probably see a 296 win, even with less power.

 

The stated p/w ratio is still in the Stradale's favour though.

 

Nominal power ratio is 1,2 (SF90:296)
Weight ratio: 1,07
Hence, the SF90 should accelerate much faster. At least from the stand.
I suspect the electric engines that drive the front axle do not interact with the ICE and it’s gearbox properly.

 

Fun watch but the drivers performance or lack of - real story.
At Fiarano 2 seconds plus faster - guess which one

 

Have both 296 def faster

 

I am not surprised given that amazing TT V6. Two major victories already with the racing version. Dino Ferrari would be so proud that his dream has finally been realized

 

Im surprised. How is it possible? Cant be the weight as the SF90 is not that much heavier at +200kgs but has 130hp more and probably torque available at all times

 

Gearing and turbo tuning/powerband. a 296 not overall or top end faster, but during certain ranges of speed it might be.

 

I just watched the video having read the thread before. What you say is indeed explanation enough for those minimal wins on the rolling start races.

But for the rest, did I watch a different video? SF90 wins every standing start race, wet or dry. Of course it's the extra front traction and the extra HP. It wouldn't be quicker because of the looks!

 

It's more complicated than that. It depends mainly on how long each car can extract the maximum traction from its tires. Top power has little to do with it if the tires are not the limiting factor for most of the rev range.

 

Fiorano times are decided by Ferrari since there is no independent testing there, so to me they are always suspicious (it does not mean they are certainly untrue, just that it's difficult to trust them).

 

Exactly if you saw the autocar wet handling test the 296 is quicker and in the dry the both have the exact same time.

I own both and have tested them back to back with draggy and the 296 is quicker from a roll esp from 100km right up to 250.
The 296’s V6 engine is way better than the old V8’s and besides the torque management and hybrid integration is superior. They using the same engine for the 499p so that tells you

 

296 ct-off 100-200?

 

4.25 sec

 

On average the Stradale has been clocked at 4'' for the 100-200 dash, while the 296 at 4.5''.

 

Really ? 4 sec ?? Show me one test !! It’s impossible to do a 4sec 100-200 run on a stock SF90. No car in the world has managed that time. I did a 4.20 sec run with a downpipe and exhaust and that was the quickest time for an SF90. I also did a 1/4 mile in 9.46 which again is the quickest. So before you post here read up on some facts.

 

When I say 100-200 I mean whilst already accelerating. This is the average of what reputable magazines have recorded with different cars. Read up: https://zeperfs.com/en/duel7937-10022.htm