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Testarossa timing belts (Major) on a QuickJack ?

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  1. ago car nut

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    Make an engine cradle out of square tubing with casters. Remove rear wheels, lower car down to cradle, un-bolt lift body. This you wont have to lift body so high.
     
  2. teveo

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    Thats a good idea, need to study some engine out pix and make a plan. Have welding equipment in a back room with concrete floor and can weld up a cradle.

    Wood ain't bad either, have made a few cradles before with 4x4 wood and angle iron, it is a breeze to work with and soft on the metal.

    I checked the plenum height, it looks like I need to get 90 cm (with the wheels on), forgot to check lower frame height when car was on top of QuickJack but top of bumper was at 84 cm but I am sure I can get that to 95 cm. Looking at pix on the internet it seems like top of bumper measure ain't far off that rear frame, maybe need another 5 cm.
     

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  3. vincenzo

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    This worked well for me. Easy to fab. Seems plenty strong. Steel will save about 10cm of height.

    The adjustable jacks (home depot) built into the frame really help with the fine adjustments. Getting the shock absorber threads through the upper frame without any thread damage requires some finesse.

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    This is looking good, a rolling table with fixtures and wood is nice to work with and I can reuse it on rear engine Porsche with a little modularity.
     
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    Thats a nice trolley but I cant get to that height, would definitely be better to work on the engine at that height though. I am gonna try find the article about using the 4 post lift again, found a good article the other day but with 25 tabs open in the browser it is not always easy to bookmark everything. :(
     
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    They make low ones.
     
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    If I may..why not pull it out from the top? Pull it up on the 4 post, yank the exhaust and manifolds, remove shift rod, drain fluids, undo everything underneath, roll it off the 4 post, remove engine lid and lift the mill out? You will have to puttz with the axles, but no biggie. You will also be left with a car you can roll any place you want to put it.
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    so I always do - out to the top
     
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    Hard to pull the lid safely when working alone.
     
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    I always work alone, you only need the right tools and equipment
     
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    I pull F40 and BB 512 lids alone.
     
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    #38 vincenzo, Feb 25, 2020
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    Sure... an overhead crane would be sweet. Presumably a typical diy individual does not have that. Lifting it by one pair of hands is asking for trouble. Might be able to use the four post lift as a crane(?)

    Is it possible by hand? Likely.
    Is it easy to damage? You betcha.
     
  14. Rifledriver

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    If he is well enough equipped to pull the engine he is well enough equipped to pull the hood.
     
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    Oh no .. I'lll be happy to lower the engine under the car thank you :eek::)
    • 4 "Rhino ramps" or similar, drive car onto ramps get some 4-6 inches additional height from ground.
    • Push in the QuickJack on top of 2 layers of 2x8 floor boards bolted to garage wooden floor
    • ratchet straps to hold down QuickJacks to those boards.
    • adjustable wooden trolley to receive engine package with or without wheels.
    Prototype this weekend if I find my tools.
     
  16. vincenzo

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    If you have an adequate overhead crane (lots of lift and capacity)... it is a very reasonable option worth considering.

    Something like this, depending on capacity and reach would be ‘iffy’.

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    vincenzo, you also need a tool like this or equal:

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    you have to lift the engine on one side more than the other and this is with only the crane you show here not possible
     
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    Yes, I do have one of those, it will be splendid for lowering the engine down on the trolley. Thanks, that was the missing link.
     
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    Hm, looks like I could consider using the overhead crane as the trolley/platform, just a solid wooden deck onto the base!

    Sorry "turbo-joe" I cant use that kind of lift, don't have roof fixtures, can't put anchors in the roof.
     
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    The draw back to that is your platform needs for the bottom to be higher that the legs of the hoist. You had mentioned a height issue. That will compound it.

    You could just put 2 x 12 planks across the legs I suppose.
     
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    Too much work for an old guy.
    Try this - 140usd on Amazon.
    You can stand to the side and watch for interference as you lift/drop. Much safer.


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  24. vincenzo

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    #49 vincenzo, Feb 25, 2020
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    After awhile... you REALLY come to appreciate a two post lift.

    Don’t forget to use the Harbor Freight 20% off coupons!
    On holidays they drop it by 25%.
     
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    this what I show is not for to put on the roof. it is to put on your crane and then when lifting the engine to lift it at one side higher then at the other side.
    this what vincenzo shows in post 47 is working equal. this part in post 48 has to be mounted on the roof.and you can not get the engine on one side higher than the other side during lifting out.
     

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