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Testarossa is now a collectible! Prices rise!

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  1. bpu699

    bpu699 F1 World Champ
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    Yep, its official. The car I paid 55k$ for (87) is now worth about 100k. At least it is if you read Sport Car Market. June 2005, pg 81 -

    1986 testarossa with 4176 miles sells for $129,036!!!!!

    Yikes, I better put mine in a bubble right now - I only have 6000 more miles then this one ;).

    Someone explain this to me. Most other testarossas that sell at auction, the magazine proclaims as "overpriced" at 50k$. This one isn't even showroom new!!! Its a condition 2. I guarantee that my 10k mile example is likely at least as nice, but its white/red. Should I call the museum directly ;)?

    So, anyone who questioned the collectibility of a testarossa can now put their fears to rest. The uncontrolled bidding has started. I will no longer plan for my retirement, but merely wax my car twice weekly....:).

    This also explains why garage queens rule...

    Thoughts?
     
  2. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Auctions get out of hand sometimes, especially with higher end cars. I was at the local dealer's auction (DAAOKC) a few weeks ago and one of the Chevrolet dealers was battling it out with a Dallas Chevy dealer on an 02 Z06. The car was worth about $35k and about $29k at wholesale, Mark Heitz from Norman,OK ended up taking the car home at $46k, a stock yellow 6spd Z06 with 23k miles (2003).

    So just keep that in mind. I'm sure Testarossa prices will rise in the future, but not now, this is just an example of trying to prove you have "balls".

    Regards,
    Kevin
     
  3. Tifoso1

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    The new owner will probably come on to the forum two weeks after buying his "dream car" and bit** about how expensive it is to maintain a Testarossa and how unreliable the car is and thus the birth of another nightmare Testarossa story that will get passed around the globe. :)
     
  4. Miura Jota

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    in my opinion unreliability has nothing to do with collectibillity...
    but the fact is : more than 10 000 Testarossas were produced
    considering that vast number... it is difficult to think of a TR as "hard to find" hence valuable
     
  5. PSP

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    The "fact" is .....

    there were a TOTAL of 9,855 Testarossas of the 3 versions made (TR, 512TR, F512M) over an 11 year period. If you're going to combine all of the iterations of the TR, IMO you'd have to combine all of the versions of the 3X8 (almost 20,000 cars)
     
  6. judge4re

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    It gets better, there are something like 16k + 360's out there. How's that for collectability? You still sure you want to pay over sticker for one? The F430 is not going to be any different...
     
  7. jjmalez

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    hey,

    you beat me to the 308 @ lamborghini chicago. i notice you have a mondial 8. i looked at a mondial quattrovalvole coupe in the chicago surburbs a few years ago. seemed to have corrosion in the lower door pannels and in the muffler shield. how's your 8 when it comes to corrosion?

    current porsche owner looking to get into a ferrari.

    joe
     
  8. normhuff

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    I've always looked at TR ownership in a different way. From '84-'91 there were 7177 of the cars produced. I'm sure many have been lost over the years due to accidents, neglect, and simple wear and tear that have reduced this number even further. Then I figure in the world's human population at this moment being about 6,440,701,913, and from there divide the approximate number of TRs remaining in the world. Hence, I come up with the satisfaction in realizing the odds of being the proud owner of one of these fine automobiles in the world is literally, one in a million. Knowing this fact makes the TR driving experience even that more pleasurable...
     
  9. judge4re

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    /small detour on

    The Mondial 8 is rust free, but it spent its time in FL and VA before I moved it to TN. The 308 has rot in the doors, but I'm planning on repainting it soon anyway, so it wasn't that big an issue when I got it.

    /small detour off
     
  10. scycle2020

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    there will be over 17k 360s and probably 20k 430 s...none of these cars are collectables,except maybe the 512m.... if you want collectable, go buy a vintage v12 ferrari....
     
  11. Joe G.

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    you sure the car didn't sell for $12,903.60

    that's more the reality
     
  12. goober

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  13. Etcetera

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    Sell it at B-J and pocket a cool 300k or so!
     
  14. CMY

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    What's with the shields?

    Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

    C.
     
  15. goober

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    shields?? thats for the morons of the world who are not privy to Miami Vice and have no idea as to wot a TR is or made them.

    and just because i have a clear engine cover that also means i can but should'nt
     
  16. steve f

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    6k miles on a testarossa i would rather drive it and enjoy using than polishing it for 10 years hoping that it aint going to lose money there is some very sad ferrari owners when i go to heaven and meet them the discision will be had a great life usuing my ferrari then little sad old fart will speak up i had one for 10 years didnt lose any money except on polish
     
  17. RacerX_GTO

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    Ummm, yeah.... that's how I envision my future Ferrari, sitting in the garage. (?????)


    The 512m is a sleeper, just wait, that is going to be the car to watch.
     
  18. thecarreaper

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    i like the shields, and i would love to see some pics with the clear engine cover as i LOVE the way those look as well.
     
  19. ashsimmonds

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    ah-ha, mister supermarket's Smurf Diablo! is that a snow-white GT4 in there too? never seen that on the street.

    i was gonna see if he was stacking shelves in the produce section and ask if he wants to come and play with us. failing that ask one of the checkout-chicks out on a date. :p
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  20. ashsimmonds

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    well, you can almost see it here....
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  21. goober

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    i'll take a pic of the engine cover tomorrow,
    and yep a white GT4, real bush pig
    Blue diablo---choice of buying it of the TR----glad i chose the TR
    Alfa V6 in the distance--nice truck
    E46 M3--sex on drugs
    Hoist-- nice colour


    the reason for the garage, gotta get the belts done every 2 yrs deeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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  22. Rafienva

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    Many people use the word "collectible" incorrectly. Ferrari manufactured too many Testarossa's , for them to be collectible. Prices for Testarossa's have come down the past few years, however the slide has stopped. You can buy 86-91 Testarossa's anywhere in the $50's to 70's range, depending on condition , mileage etc. 512TR's , manufactured from 1992 -1994 have retained their value better than Testarossa's. The 512 TR, is a much better handling car than it's predecessor, 45 extra HP, 18" wheels, nicer interior and seats and more importantly, the engine was lowered, giving the 512TR great handling and control at the edge. You can purchase 512TR's in the $90's to $120's range. On the other hand the 512M, of which less than 75 were imported in the US. Has held the same value for the past 6 years. They are still bringing over $150,000. If I was going to buy a Testarossa, I would get the 512 TR. Less than 400 were imported to the US and it's pretty reliable.
     
  23. goober

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    In Australia though the cost of the TR has held it'd own as less were bought in, gotta remember cars do get destroyed and those that are looked after will always hold or increase in value
     
  24. Birdman

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    I do not agree. It's not how many that were made that is important, but the number available to the buying public at any one time. Look at how many beanie babies were made and how collectible they are. Look at how many stamps are printed and how collectible they are. People collect weird things, cars among them. If there are relatively few TR's available for sale at any one time, as will happen as time goes on, the prices will rise as demand outweighs supply.

    Keep in mind that the TR will have a huge following from people who were kids when they came out. Once those people reach the age where they can afford them, there will be a stimulation in demand. I think we are just starting to reach that point.

    Birdman
     
  25. bpu699

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    Guys, just think how of how many porsche 911's were made...keep in mind the values of the 1970's 911's are on the rise!!! Large numbers don't make a car less disireable...

    Do I think that the high and mighty duesenberg collectors of today will want a testarossa in the future...probably not. Do I think the higher-than-average-income 40-50 year old will want one in the future - yep.

    Quite honestly, I think the single lug testarossa's will go up significantly. THAT was a very unique design feature, and looks cool to boot. I never much yearned for the later testarossas like the LM. It was the single lug models that graced the cover of every car mag in the 80's, and it was the car I thought I could never own. You had to be quite wealthy to own a car with an MSRP in the 125k$ range, selling at over 200k$ in the real world. And that was in 1980's dollars!!! Gee, what would such a car cost today, accounting for inflation...1 million$ plus or so? THAT has cache to it.

    I am betting that there are a lot of folks my age thinking the same, they just haven't gotten "there" financially yet.

    If a run of the mill 1970's 911s went up 20% plus over the last several years, I see no reason for ANY ferrari not to do the same in the future. My last 911S (1976, all the usual fixes, head studs, tensioners, repaint, etc), which was in better than average condition, I sold for 9800$ 4 years ago. Now, they are closer to 13k$ in the Midwest. And I thought I sold at a good price...

    Lets think about this. YOU CAN GET A 12 CYLINDER FERRARI, which sold for over 200k in the 1980's....for 50k$. Let that sink in...think about it...

    And yes the car looks very "1980's", with everything that implies. Its over the top, garish, flamboyant, and wild. Some say its out of style. GEEE, do you think folks in the 1970's liked the big finned caddies of the 50's? I believe those were out of style also. And how many of those did they produce???!!! What do they cost now? 2500$ new, now 50k plus...
     

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