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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Bowtye8, Jan 14, 2018.

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  1. Tides

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    Try goo gone in situ - works pretty good and much better than alcohol. .


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  2. Dave rocks

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    Actually, that's false. 1st, removing the sticky coating is not refinishing. But, the absolute best chemical is alcohol, 99%. All other products have a percentage of alcohol.
     
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  3. Viperjoe

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    Below is a Technical Information sheet from Ferrari which addresses depolymerization of soft touch components. I haven’t had the sticky button problem, so I haven’t had the need to try the recommended product. As such, I can’t speak to the validity of the recommendation. Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
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  4. Dave rocks

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    That bulitten is the biggest crock of **** :)

    Talk about CYA ;)
     
  5. arizonaitalian

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    Wow!

    The whole sticky parts issue is enough to cause one to never want to own another ferrari.

    But that "memo" adds the insult to the injury.

    Honestly...what a bunch of BS.

    For this and other (mostly obvious) issues, no more Ferrari's in my life. They won't miss me as a customer, but the only rational choice when getting screwed is to stop letting someone do it to me.
     
  6. Need4Spd

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    That bulletin is bull. Nothing has touched my soft surfaces except water or my finger oils, and I can tell they’re still de-polymerizing. Not yet to the point of making a mess or needing refinishing, but it’s happening.


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  7. Dave rocks

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    Interesting story: This car was once owned by a good friend of mine and when I started doing this work as a hobby, some of this cars parts where my first that I refinished but we had only done a few of the parts. So, when the full set of parts came in this time, a couple of my guys looked at them, saw they had been done prior and said to me "Dave, these parts look pretty good - I wonder who did them?" I replied "Me" :)
     
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  8. JohnTz

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    This is a very interesting thread. As a new owner it makes me paranoid.

    There has to be some variability in the coatings used. I have seen many 10+ year old cars where the coatings are pristine yet I recently saw a 458 that is a few years old where the buttons were all goo. I wonder what is the variable. I am sure environment is key and maybe someone used something to clean them that caused the rapid coating failure. I’m sure StickyRx will be busy for years to come till Ferrari fixes the problem. Good news is that it seems the 488 uses less of this material compared to previous models.
     
  9. Viperjoe

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    Zero sticky button issues on my 2013 458. May the sticky button gods bless my 2018 488 as well.
     
  10. Dave rocks

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    Not really, just about the same as a 458. We've already refinished 488 parts although they did not get sticky, they peeled:

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/not-sticky-but-coating-failure-on-488.544734/

    John, the failure is accelerated by heat, humidity, UV and chemicals but time is also a factor. I posted this prior - my Rotel remove got sticky after sitting in a drawer for 3 years, out of the heat and sun, untouched.

    My buddies 2013 is also fine, for now. But, we do 458 often.



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  11. Rossocorsa1

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    Dave - does the Pista seem to have more, less or about the same sticky parts as the standard 488?
     
  12. Dave rocks

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    Jeff - I just reviewed a few images. Seems about the same.

    HVAC Panel, steering cover, probably same tilt switch, transmission control buttons, headlight control, parking brake control, pods left / right of steering wheel, lift button, mirror control, all steering wheel buttons except "Start". Parts look about the same - some minor differences. The headlight control is a take off from what is used in a California.
     
  13. andrewecd

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    The only thing "INAPROPRIATE" is F continue to supply this crap finish for 20 years.
    Being a manufacturer myself, I cannot comprehend how F have not responded to fixing this embarrassing problem.
    Had to send all my interior parts to Dave so I could sell a car.
     
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  14. Rossocorsa1

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    Thanks. Call you in 15 years.
     
  15. Dave rocks

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    Or 3-5 ;)
     
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  17. drivemycar

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    I don't get it. Why do they keep using this finish, it sucks, I get black on my fingers every time i touch any control.
     
  18. docf

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    I have this depolymerization product and have used it per instructions x1. Expensive for a 1000 ml bottle. Made by Lechler (called a silicone remover). Use at temp between 5 to 35 degree. I used it once. No comment as to efficacy yet. Order directly from Ferrari Parts dept
     
  19. MANDALAY

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    This is a 2 year old post :) But admin : Why has Dave been banned ?
     
  20. Cigarzman

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    Angelo, my recollection was some sort of a “sticky “ situation .
     
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  21. scott61

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    Guessing not becoming a vendor?
     
  22. INRange

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    Nope.
     
  23. 285ferrari

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    We can solve that issue for you, just drop us an email
     
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  24. docf

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    There is no reason for Ferrari to have allowed this recurrent problem ( Insult to it's customers) to continue yr. after yr., Model after Model and have accepted No responsibility. After 6 Ferrari cars I'm truly sorry to say it is inexcusable to allow this quality issue to remain on such beautifully engineered sports cars when the fix could have been so simple if only they cared!
     
  25. KC360 FL

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    ^^^^ absolutely. And to me, and I'm sure any others here, that own our own business, it's mind blowing.
    I simply cannot wrap my head around this complete failure from a company like Ferrari to correct this issue --- for over 3 decades!
    It's ridiculous.
     
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