Static Klippan belt installation

Not really sure if this can help you, but these are the pictures of my L-series original seat belt installation:

Best, Peter

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Hi Peter,

Is your car a Euro-delivery? If so, any chance that you have close-up of the label tag?

I'd love to see what was printing on those tags in Europe...

Also, your picture of the shoulder anchor point seems to show the anchor "flipped over" compared to your drawing. Am I misinterpreting something in the drawing?

Cheers,
Alex

 

It's a Euro delivery. Early L series, fabricated late 1969. The original text was mostly gone due to age. I changed the webbing and bought some aftermarket labels as you can see below. I believe I bought them from Rob, another fchat member (https://dino246.com/store.html)

With respect to the flipped anchor on the drawing, then maybe what you think is the shoulder point actually is the floor point?

Best regards

Peter

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Oh, so the section that has all the "looping" clipped to it is the lap part of the belt?

It would be interesting if the original belt had that same label on it. The "Federal" wording on the label is something that you usually see on belts meant for the USA market.

 

Peter, it looks like the shoulder shelf end has the folded webbing stitching side facing up. I thought that would always face down, so it's hidden. Same goes for the label end...label always faces down so it's normally hidden from view.

One thing that seems to be different with your L series vs Rob's M series is you have 90 degree endpoint mounting hardware for the buckle section whereas the M uses the same stepped mounting hardware in all locations.

 

US & Canada used the same labels, UK had its own and I believe the rest of Euro used the `Made in Italy' label. There are other threads on the topic with photos of the different labels,

 

Correct noted. The webbing is turned around so the stitches ( and also labels) are visible and this has always been a mystery for me. But remember this is one of the very early L series and I have found many things that differs from later L-series cars. These very early cars was changed and modified as they were produced and they were kind a considered as prototypes for the next coming series. I chose to copy the original style when i changed out the webbing (Renewed due to safety considerations since I drive the car regularly).

I don't know if the label text is 100% correct since I cannot read the old label, others with more insight knowledge must chime in.

Best, Peter

 

Just went out to the garage and took a picture of the belt. I hope it helps:

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I'm certainly not the authority on this (and I'm trying to repurpose BMW 3pt static Klippan belts to my M-series), but I've never heard of chrome adjustment fittings...they've always been the ribbed plastic ones seen in Peter's photos. Mercedes used a different plastic adjuster with the same buckle hardware.

 

Chrome adjusters are correct for the Klippan Lyfe-Lock belts on an E series. Here is a photo of the belt on my car #04054 Mark.

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Ok, so I guess static E-series belts are totally different then L and M (static) belts. I knew that I'd be promptly corrected if I was in error.

But that male buckle end is different than what I've seen before. I guess yet another difference from L & M Klippan.

 

So I went back and searched around, just to be sure that I had not missed something that I should have noticed, but did not manage to find anything...

The reason that I asked about Peter's labels, is because his belts were still the early ones with the "loop-dee-loop" webbing.

All the label pictures that I've previously managed to find for Euro delivery static Klippans have all looked to be for the latter ones with the chrome aux adjustment "buckle". Those belts look to have a "1392" type number, and I've always wondered if the earlier belts had a different type number.

Though I suspect that my car (mid 72 build) probably should have the later style, it is a lot easier to find the bits to try and assemble one of the early belts, so if the numbers were different, it would be interesting to know.

There are a lot of post on such things, however, so perhaps I just missed something. If that is the case, I'd appreciate a pointer to what I should take a look at.

Thanks!
Alex