Spider vs GTS

And to add to the confusion, the F355 has both a Spider and a GTS version, which are different body styles but both are Spiders. Don't bother trying to figure it out.

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Are you sure that it isn't "Gran Turismo Spyder"?

+1 -- Ferrari never follows the rules (even its own rules) and does whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it (which is how it should be)...

 

How about Porsche?

Carrera is a base 911…

But a Carrera GT is neither a “Carrera 911” nor a gran turismo.

Porsche “GTS” trim is not a convertible.

A 911 GT2 or GT3 are not “GT” cars either.

Their “Targa” top isn’t removable anymore but is an automated convertible.

Base 911 “Carrera” are now turbocharged, as are “Turbo”.

 

There is no "Y" in the Italian Alaphabet. So Spider is the correct spelling.
"Steve Magnusson,:Are you sure that it isn't "Gran Turismo Spyder"?

 

You left out the Taycan Turbo.


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The nomenclature is arbitrary, but because these cars are nicely trimmed the grand tourer designation is probably justified. I.e., leather upholstery and door panels, power seats and windows… these aren’t hardcore sports cars the way something like a Lotus Exige was/is.


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I agree and wonder too if modern conceptions of the GT have changed from those of the past.

The rear-mid engine Ferrari 308 is designated as a GT. Its suspension is remarkably soft and its steering rack is as slow as a ship's wheel. Based on this, it seems it is designed to bomb down the autostrade or autobahn at the 308's rev-limited 250 kph more than it is to navigate a racetrack.

The modern conceptions of GT now seem to be more about trunk space.

 

+1 -- I'll wager $1 that many of the English-language documents that Ferrari issued about the 365GTS and 365GTS/4 used the (Great Britain automotive English) English term "Spyder" in them.

 

It’s just more model name misappropriation. The 930 was the Turbo. Now the designation applies wherever marketing feels the need.

Not as bad as the California and Lusso nameplates being resurrected for models that are pale shadows of the originals.


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Lamborghini uses the term “Roadster” for a removable targa top and “Spyder” for convertibles.

So you have Aventador Roadsters and Evo Spyders

 

Its simple, really , SPYDER = CONVERTIBLE , GTS = TARGA TOP after the 355, Ferrari only made spyders. no GTS , all were convertibles. These being other than the B cars . 488 / 458 / 430 only come in B s or Spyders / Convertables

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Well, for me, I suppose it is, Im not a Ferrari expert, but Ive owned mine for 23 years, and I know most of their machines going back to the 60 s .

B is Berlinetta, or coupe / hard top

No GTS after 1999

All Spyders or Bs 2000 on

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every car Ferrari made after 99 is a spyder or a B , thats it
360
430
458
488

F8

Ah 812 Is called a GTS. my Bad, but its a spyder not a True GTS its a convertible , not a true GTS as Ferrari designated them from 1999 and earlier .

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296 GTS is the gran turismo spider while 296 GTB is the gran turismo berlinetta.
Now that most convertible Ferrari cars have rigid folding roofs, they are called spider or GTS (depending on the mood of the marketing department) - but the 348 and 355 had two types of removable roofs, in which case the targa-like car was called GTS (or TS for the early 348) and the convertible with soft top was called spider.
At the time of the 308 / 328 these cars had targa-like removable tops and were called GTS while the real spider (soft folding top) was available on the Mondial.