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Speedo / Odometer problem

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  1. Kieron

    Kieron Karting

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    Strange issue.

    Speedo not working. Trying to trace wiring - odometer working ok. Rev counter ok.

    Is it on a cable or a pulse?

    If pulse any idea on the wiring?
     
  2. MaseratiMike

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    Pulse driven, quite easy to remove the instrument pod and to inspect/trace the wiring…

    (It won’t be the speed sensor, as the odometer wouldn’t be working either)

    1. Unscrew and release the bottom speaker panel by the door/dash on the floor
    2. Unplug the wiring harnesses
    3. To release the instrument pod there are 2x 10mm nuts to unscrew behind the pod trim piece just above the steering wheel column, you can also unscrew the single 10mm nut in the centre of the trim piece to the pod if it makes it easier for you
    4. Then you’ll be able to remove the cluster and check the wiring, dismantle etc.

    Could be a loose wire/a failed IC in the Speedometer itself (pulse signal converter), if it’s the same as a 1985 Ferrari Mondial Veglia Borletti (which I repaired the tachometer) - SAK 215 is the IC. I can’t remember what mine is for my TR.

    Photos attached to help you, for when I put a mph speedo dial face instead of kph…
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  3. Drew Altemara

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    I agree with Mike. If the odometer is working and speedo needle is not its not the pulse sender. Odds are pretty good if you send out the speedo gauge to be repaired you will be correct. Someone smarter than me might be able to tell you how to trouble shoot the speedo just to make sure.
     
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  4. Qavion

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    Tachometer or odometer, Mike? How did you go with your odometer? Still a work in progress?
     
  5. Kieron

    Kieron Karting

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    Thank you all so much.
    I’m wondering if it’s a cable from or to the odometer that has failed possibly?
     
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  6. MaseratiMike

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    Hi Ian. It was the Tach on my previous Mondial... unfortunately not been able to test my TR odometer yet, due to the recent storms+poor weather in the UK and now the leaking radiator.... I plan to put the car back together and do a short test soon, before it goes off for it's major service and radiator repairs. Will keep you guys posted, at least I now have the unicorn IC for the odometer as a final piece to replace after all the other work. Best regards Mike
     
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  7. MaseratiMike

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    You might be lucky and yes it could be one of the cable connections.... even just a dirty/dry connection joint on the wiring harness.
     
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  8. turbo-joe

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    what car please?
    odometer is in the instrument or separate in the center console?
     
  9. Qavion

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    Good point. The OP's profile says a "1992 Testarossa".
     
  10. turbo-joe

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    ah ok, had not a look at his profile, sorry
     
  11. Kieron

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    It’s a separate odometer down by the digital clock. It’s not integrated into the speedo etc.

    The connection behind the odometer seems fine, I’m wondering if there is a cable that runs from the odometer white block over to the speedo that has failed etc.
     
  12. MaseratiMike

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    There is indeed a shared/integrated wiring loom, you will see in one of the pictures at the top of the steering column white connector blocks and wires from the column stalk switches... this also partially connects into the wiring loom used by the central console gauges / high beam blue light etc and the odometer.

    I will take some pictures to further help, as I still haven't mounted back my odometer in my car
     
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  13. Qavion

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    Perhaps you could do a continuity check between the odometer and the speedo. A red/black wire carries the signal from the odometer to the speedo.

    There is a disconnect plug between the odometer and speedo, but I don't know where it is.
     
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  14. turbo-joe

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    kieron,
    your profile says a 92, but those have the odometer in the instrument, not near the clock. as I know it
    so you have then a 512 TR and not a testarossa?
     
  15. Kieron

    Kieron Karting

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    No it’s a late registered UK Testarossa. 92 manufactured and registered in 93.
    A bit of an anomaly I know
     
  16. turbo-joe

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    ok
    thank you for clarification
    I would try to test if you have + and - and signal
    may be switch the speedometer wires to the rpm meter and test if this will work

    does someone knows when F changed the odometer from the center console to the instrument?
     
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  17. Kieron

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    Thanks so much Mike. Very kind and helpful.
     
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  18. Qavion

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    #19 Qavion, Mar 5, 2022
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  19. Kieron

    Kieron Karting

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    Mike to the rescue again.

    The fault was in the square connector that you circled. Dirty connection. Cleaned all contacts across all the connections behind those pods (although two were working ok but can’t hurt) and hey presto I have the speedo back working as it was.

    Thanks to Mike and all the gang here.
     
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  20. Qavion

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    Strange. If it was the square connector, the odometer shouldn’t have worked.

    The signal from the sender to the speedo goes to that connector, but not through it.

    Anyway, a happy ending.
     
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  21. Kieron

    Kieron Karting

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    It could well have been another connector behind there. I decided to pull everything to bits and give everything a long needed clean up.

    Sorted a rattle near the passenger door too today.

    Plus a general clean up inside.

    A productive Sunday afternoon
     
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  22. MaseratiMike

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    Great to hear you managed to sort it Kieron and a lovely car. Glad we could all help on the forum Thanks Mike
     
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