Speciale wheels and tires messing with traction control?

the revolutions per mile is quite a bit different between the stock 458 wheel and the Speciale wheel. The incorrect size wheel and tire is interpreted by the ABS/Traction control as spinning rear tires. unless you know someone who can reprogram the ABS or make the Speciale ABS unit work, which is different then the standard 458 you can either go to the correct tire size or run with the Traction turned off. Keep in mind that even with traction turned off the ABS will not operate correctly either as the front tires will trigger a premature lockup reaction due to their slower speed during hard braking. this is going to really cause a lot of premature rear brake wear if driven in this configuration.

 

Interesting issue..

I think Chris (synergy) has speciale wheels on his Italia, you might want to pm him and ask him if he is experiencing the same traction occurrence

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I just have the speciale size front tires on my italia and has no issues with traction control.
The speciale rear tire size is significantly different than italia size; so I'm waiting for Pirelli to offer Trofeo-R tires in 305/35/20 size.

 

That's a 3.2% difference, which makes those wheels inappropriate for your car.

 

At a recent pilota event, an Australian gentleman mentioned he had tried to use different wheels / tyres on his 458. He struggled with the same problem and as I recall couldn't find a solution other than to revert to OEM 458 sizes.

 

I considering changing out my wheels when my 458 spider arrives in January. Will the dealership reprogram the traction control to the "speciale " specifications? Also does anyone have a picture of the nero 458 spider with the flat black speciale wheels?..thanks Albert

 

Doubt the dealer has access to that level of coding. DEIS can't program a module other than as the chassis specific module ie plain 458. Unless there is somewhere out in the cloud a cracked Ferrari coding software like BMWs E-sys, they won't be able to do it.

 

Someone here recently had his 458 mounted up with Speciale spec wheels. He had the ECU reprogrammed. I can't remember who it was. There has been other posts regarding this issue. Problem is that the original wheels are 26.5" dia. front, and the rears 28.1". Now you have 26.8" front and 27.2" rear, it's a huge difference. Not only that, the rear of your car now sits 15mm lower in relation to the front, compared to stock, as your front has been lifted 3.8mm and your rear lowered 11,43mm due to the different radius. Can't help but wondering whether this will affect the car negatively at high speed, as it could allow more air pressure to build up under the car and create lift on the front axle. It also changes the balance of the car and the aerodynamic profile. Whether it's enough to be noticeable, I don't know. Lowering the front 15mm would take care of that.

 

Just curious as to why you would do that given that it likely changes the dynamics of the car - was it simply because you liked the look better? Having done it - any regrets or will you go down the route of reprogramming if you can?

 

So you would run MPSS in the front and MPSC2 in the rear? Is it a good idea to mix these two tires?

I ask because I also like the wider look & stance of the Speciale wheels. Although I may just keep my stock wheels and add 15mm spacers.

 

Would be interesting to see how it looks - I guess a bit more aggressive?

 

I have Speciale wheels on my 458 with Michelin tires. So far no traction control issues after about 300 miles. Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Specifically which Micheline tires and what sizes? Are we talking OEM Speciale MPSC2 or MPSS in different size or??

 

dlopez001 was asking Synergy to specify which tyres, as he did not provide info about which Michelins he is using.

 

Correct and thank you for adding clarity to my question.

 

Just to be clear, I used oem 458 tires on the Speciale wheels. No traction control issues whatsoever but I will try 62 MPH tomorrow and see what happens.

 

In that case, yes, 235/35R20 front - 295/35R20 rear. No problems of course.

For track use, I'd look into the Pirelli Trofeo R in OEM size and forget about all the issues with using the OEM Speciale tyres on the 458 Italia.