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  1. Bas Jaski

    Bas Jaski Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Agree, there is such a thing as ''too fast for the roads''. Especially European roads, which tend to be quite a bit narrower than those found in the states (seriously, those long sweeping corners in California are so wide...a modern NA Ferrari can be driven mega fast there!). The newer stuff is so impressive but so unbelievably fast, I can't imagine they'll be as fun on the road as their slower counterparts...track is a whole other ballgame, if I was doing a lot of track days and didn't want a dedicated track car, Pista all the way (and with a bit less noise it should be easier to pass noise tests than a Speciale, let alone Challenge Stradale!).
     
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  2. Thecadster

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    That can’t possibly be correct. Seems like there were over 100 for sale online in the US at one point.
     
  3. islandtrader

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    I feel like every time there is a new model everyone just defends the old one. This happened when the 488 came out. 458 sound is so much better and has more soul. I had both for a week and stepping into the 458 after the 488 drive, the 458 felt so old school from braking, power delivery and overall performance there was no need to have it. I even thought the 488 sounded better, actually didn't find the 458 better in anyway, maybe looked a bit cleaner.

    My pista finally came 2 months ago. I haven't driven a speciale in a while but the pista is amazing. Sounds great, obnoxiously loud on the interior that I can't even take a bluetooth phone call at 70mph. Not sure what people want these days. A slower NA car that revs to 9k and has no torque? Porsche GT3 is that. Pista is trying to compete with the best of the best.
     
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  4. Gh21631

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    Your spot on, it happens with every model and I agree the Pista doesn't sound as bad as some make it out and it does get better with miles. I would also like it to be more aggressive but its not awful.
     
  5. dustman

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    A bit off the mark here.

    Most here are merely pointing out the sound is light years better in the 458 than the current gen. Outside of that the 488 platform is a great step on.
     
  6. Gh21631

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    Most older gen cars sound better not just Ferraris. Best we have now are the Lambo's and last gen Ferraris. It is what it is.
     
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  7. islandtrader

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    Maybe I'm going with the times here and might be a bit more controversial of a view but I am starting to like the turbo era sounds. I own a 720s as well and I even think that sounds good in track mode. Yes it doesn't sound like a 458 or v12 but it has its unique character.

    I also think the typical ferrari customer doesn't want an extremely loud car. Its fun for like 15 mins, then your wife starts yelling at you that she can't make a phone call.
     
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  8. islandtrader

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    812 sounds great!
     
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  9. Shack

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    There is a debate that its for EU and APAC only? Not sure what the truth is. Either way its small numbers
     
  10. Scraggy

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    Speciale Aperta roof down at 8500 is incredible trust me, musical

    My turbos are all like hoovers though agree with that
     
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  11. Coincid

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    Beating the same old dead horse. The consensus has been established that when it comes to engine sound, the NA 458 is preferred over the Turbo in the 488 series.
     
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  12. IloveGT

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    please fill in the blanks.

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  13. sampelligrino

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    Cool video just released on the Pista. Catchpole compares Speciale to Pista a bit, but mainly I enjoyed the gorgeous cinematography and shots of the car
     
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  14. Dontbethatguy

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    No doubt that it’s hard to beat the sound of a V12 at RPM! I loved my F12 for this reason, but once I bought my 458 spider I rarely wanted to get in the F12. So, I sold it last summer. My 458 spider with the IPE exhaust is nothing short of melodious. I do agree that the V12 takes the win on all-time best sound, but my 458 never disappoints on the sound for me.

    I drove both a 458 and 488 before I bought, and I went with the 458 for the sound. I have other cars that are a lot faster, so I wasn’t trying to capture all different aspects in one car. My GT2RS wins when I want all-out speed. That car is a keeper for me, but I’m always more drawn to the 458 spider for all-around fun factor. Great sound, lots of fun to pitch into corners, and ridiculous value. While I watch the Speciale Aperta market regularly, I’ll keep driving the 458 spider because I can rack up the miles and not care. It provides maximum enjoyment every time, and I NEVER get in it and think about keeping miles off of it. I’ve learned to not sweat the miles on anything that I own. If I’m apprehensive to drive it, I won’t buy it. I’m just not built to own museum pieces.

    Everyone is different, so figure out what you want/like and go get it!
     
  15. Art138

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    I have had my Pista for about three weeks now,taken how fast one can hit the rev limiter getting caught-up in the visceral driving.
     
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  16. Jo Sta7

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    I drove the 458 both today and yesterday. Finally got to redline a few times, which isn’t the easiest thing to do. The car is, imho, the perfect amount of fast. You can still rev it out to near 9k and tick through a couple of gears before you’re into triple digits. That’s perfect. I’m sure the Pista is far quicker but I can’t see it being more enjoyable.
     
  17. Thecadster

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    And his voice...
     
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  18. Art138

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    I ignored his voice altogether.....the road he was on did not help either.
     
  19. AlfistaPortoghese

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    I’m surprised I’m going to be the first to say that that’s a super cool color spec, imvho. Love it to death. While Rosso is Ferrari’s color because it’s Italy’s national color in internacional motoring competitions, Giallo is Modena’s color. To some, at least as special as Rosso in Ferrari’s history and heritage.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
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  20. IloveGT

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    I agree, although I have not driven the pista yet. I was literally experiencing the same thing today. 200 more horses definitely will be definitely more fun but way more risky to literally lose my license.
     
  21. Jo Sta7

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    Today I was ripping around a corner at about 85 and out of the corner of my eye I see a groundhog come screaming across the road. Luckily the little bugger scooted across before I hit him. In the Pista I would have been further ahead and crushed him .
     
  22. BG23

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    In the pista you would have gone past him before he even got on the road :)
     
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  23. IloveGT

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    this is a good one!
     
  24. Eilig

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  25. Jo Sta7

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    Touché!
     

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