"SLOW DOWN" light?

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  1. tifosi_

    tifosi_ Formula 3

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    It seems weird to me but most in my recent drives, for about the first 15 minutes or so into the drive when I accelerate in the lower gears I get this warning light that pops up in the same location of the "Check Engine OK" light during start-up, and its says "SLOW DOWN". To me it seems contrary to the point of having a Ferrari to begin with.
    A friend of mine told me that he believes is something to do with the Catalytic Converter possibly being clogged or something and I should bring the car to the local official Ferrari Dealer for service. Prior to doing that I checked with the Ferrari dealer first and they suggested the following prior to brining the car in as follows-
    1. They recommended I listen to the engine more during start up to see if it sounds rough at start up which could possible mean one of the 2 banks of 6 cylinders are not firing in sync or one bank is not firing evenly. There is a module which apparently controls the firing order and if it detects uneven firing it would display the warning light.
    2. I was also told it could just be a faulty Oxygen sensor that needs replacing.
    - The Ferrari Service person recommended that I leave the car for about 45 to 60 seconds prior to turning it over during start-up after seeing the "Check Engine Ok" light at start-up. If the problem goes away then I should just leave it alone, if it continues then I should schedule a visit.

    Does anyone here have an opinion on what it could be?
     
  2. DZ-96

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    Clyde, i had the Slow down also last saturday.
    I started the car, rev about 1300 rpm, 3 -5 seconds after starting the rev went down to 1100 rpm, then the light slow down.

    I thought, the noise of the exhaust was a little bit different to normal (i belive, i'm not 100 % sure), all 12 cyl fired, the typical white smoke from cold engines came only at the left side, but the right bank fired.

    I drove out of the garage, let the car run for about 10 minutes, then i stopped the engine and shutted off the battery switch.
    After restarting the engine the slow down didn't come once again.

    Car runs fine after that, no light, full power.

    Perhaps she is a little bit jealous about the 599 GTB.
    :)

    Daniel
     
  3. tifosi_

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    First of all Daniel, she's definitely jealous of the 599 GTB and despite what many here would say, i believe most 575s are :). Secondly I have had some feedback on this from the other online Ferrari Forum which I'll post here for you to read and consider as well. Based on what I've read below I think I'll bring my 575 in to get checked out. In my case the light doesn't always come on, but it has recently on occasion, and mostly at the start of my drives not after the car is fully warmed up on the road.
    Here is the reply from the other Forum: "The Ferrari Slow-Down system is a Cat protection system. It's measuring temperature of the CAT's via a thermocouple. First thing you need to do is measure the actual cat's to see what temp they are. If they are within proper limits, you might have a bad thermocouple or TCU. It's possible your CAT's are breaking up and restricting exhaust flow and generating more heat. Do not ignore this - diagnose properly and fix the problem."
    Clyde
     
  4. DZ-96

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    Mhhhhh

    But my car was absolutly cold, so it cannot be a temp problem.
    (Max 8-10 sec. after starting)

    I will look if the light will come once again.


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  5. DZ-96

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    Understand

    So it could be a sensor fault or a connection problem.

    Daniel
     
  6. tifosi_

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    Just was able to contact my Ferrari mechanic and this is what he told me after I asked if I could still drive her before bringing her in: Just make sure that the engine is running well. If the light stays on. DO NOT drive it. You can melt the converts or catch fire.


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  7. craterface

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    The cats can actually overheat and catch fire. Alternatively, the cat ECUs may need to be replaced. There are two. They can cause a false slow down light. This is probably more common than an actual catalyst overheating. However, if you have a misfire and unburned fuel is being sent out the exhaust and into the cat, it can heat up and cause a fire. These misfires can be subtle and therefore missed by a lay person. The diagnosis is achieved by measuring the actual cat temp.

    My own car had had a SLOW DOWN light and replacing the cat ECUs fixed the problem.

    Scott
     
  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Sorry Clyde, not jealous of any 599 except possibly a GTO.

    Ask some of the experts here about cat ECUs for the Maranello.
     
  9. au-yt

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    I wonder if there shouldn't be a sticky thread for this known issue.
     
  10. Cribbj

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    There's a number of threads where this has come up. Good search parameters are "Slowdown ECU" or "SDECU" or "Cat ECU". FatBillyBob started a particularly useful one a few years ago that explains how the system works, etc.

    And you're right, there probably should be a sticky thread to catch all the past and future known issues with the 550's and their cousins, but I'm sure it would soon drift OT with people diverting it into yet another forum for asking about the frequency of changing cam belts, etc. and other well worn topics that seem to keep coming up.
     
  11. tifosi_

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    Thanks for the info Scott, I'll ask Alex @ Daytona (my mechanic) about that when I bring it in to him on Tuesday.
    Clyde


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  12. tifosi_

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    That's ok Terry :), everyone has their own taste. I think I made it pretty clear previously how I feel about the 599 and would love to get my hands on one of them one day.
    If by experts about the ECU's I guess you are referring to John Cribb who just commented here, right?
    Clyde


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  13. tifosi_

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    Thanks for the heads up John, I'll search for those threads, particularly FatBillyBob's.
    Clyde


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  14. ccferrari

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    I used to, and still do, have this SAME problem, over heat or catalytic convert icon with heat waves coming out of it. And, Slow Down.

    This is so similar to my own experience so, not sure if this is relevant to this thread at all as my 599GTO is an entirely different car, however, still a Ferrari.

    SOLUTION FOR THE 599GTO: For my case, after taking it into the dealer with results of "a clear bill of health" and talking to him and then reading the manual, the solution was to allow the car to complete all its "Check OK" and "engine light off" procedures so the initialization of all the ECUs settle before moving the car. With more ECUs or computers in our modern cars, this initialization phase becomes increasingly more important to adhere to. Though the 575M is only one generation earlier, it still has a lot of ECUs. Hopefully, your solution is as easy as waiting for all the ECUs to initialize.

    BACKGROUND: I used to just jump in my car, start it, put it in gear and go slowly until the engine warmed up. After driving a short distance, when I came to the first slowdown, stop sign or stop light, the engine would die. At other times, the car would run, but with 12 cylinders and tons of hp, things are pretty smooth to begin with, so I just barely felt the car was not running well, and then, I got the "Slow Down" and "catalytic converter over heat icon" light on, different sequences at different times.

    TRAIL and ERROR: In each of these cases, I pulled over, knowing something was wrong, stopped the car, turned the engine off, and then restarted it. However, this time, waiting for the car to settle in, not realizing the "Check OK" and "engine light" completed they cycle and turned off. When I drove away, all was okay and the car ran perfect as always. Now I know, in hindsight, all I had to do is not be so anxious, and let all the initialization procedures complete and for all the initialization health lights "Check OK", etc. to turn off.

    I hope your solution is as easy as this.

    ccferrari
     
  15. tifosi_

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    I certainly hope my situation turns out to be as simple as that, or a faulty sensor and nothing more. I'm bringing her in on Tuesday to get checked out by mechanic. He's told me he has to use a scan tool to determine if there is any issue.

    All I know is that it seems to have started to happen after I had my belts adjusted cause I had my belt service done earlier in the summer but found one of the belts was making noise so brought her back for an adjustment, though it seems as though that's totally unrelated.

    Clyde


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  16. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Clyde- Hang on to your 575 for another year and you can trade it even for a good 599.
     
  17. tifosi_

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    I doubt that. Maybe in Europe or the US, but in Canada 2007 599's are still selling for between $80,000 to $100,000 more than 575s. 2008 and newer are selling in $30,000 increments higher. Its a nice thought though.


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  18. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Clyde- Believe it. Canada may not have caught up yet, but they will. One of two 575Ms in US E-Bay $149K or best offer (other $129K) and three 599s for $148K, $155K, $157K or best offer.
     
  19. tifosi_

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    Really Terry? Why though? Does it make sense?
    Clyde

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  20. Jürgen Geisler

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    Clyde, take your time, there are actually 84 599's listed in mobile.de, prices are, according to their milage sometimes far below the actually offered 575's, and there are only half of them (quantity wise) listed....

    For sure you'll find your 599 in the next years, also in Canada.


    Saluti,

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  21. tifosi_

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    Would be great if I could afford to keep the 575 and just add the 599 to my collection. Will see how my finances are when the prices come to be in line in Canada.


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  22. Jürgen Geisler

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    Having just checked the offered cars in Germany, you can actually buy 599 with a milage between 20/50.000 km's between 90-120.000 €, try to find a matching 575/550 for that money.


    Saluti,

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  23. tazandjan

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  24. tifosi_

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    Terry, are those red ones yours? Such a beautiful combo :)
    Clyde


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  25. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Clyde- No, I am nowhere rich enough to own a 599 and a Maranello. Plus the Maranello is a 550 with Barchetta wheels. Cannot even afford my 575M. But then I could not afford the Dino, Daytona, or 308 GTS, either.
     

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