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  1. emac

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    #26 emac, Feb 26, 2020
    as I recall mine didnt. just when it warmed up. I think the bypass and cat have different set off values. Easy enough to check, the connectors are behind the back right wheel.
     
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    #27 Qavion, Feb 26, 2020
    I recall the same thing, that's why I don't think it's swapped plugs. But, as you say, it's relatively easy to check.
     
  3. drbob101

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    #28 drbob101, Feb 27, 2020
    The values from the right cat and from the bypass location will be very different. At start up /cold they would both be .5v and on operation would be different.

    We don’t know exactly what the Ecu is looking for from the bypass TC or what triggers a SDL from that. I have seen it trigger with a faulty TC that was throwing voltage spikes intermittently.

    So my answer would be possibly if the switched component is faulty but if all parts are operational then at ignition I would say no.
     
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    #29 355OXO, Mar 23, 2020
    Hi Guys,
    Thanks for all the input. I have now undertaken the tests from the thread from DROCK 28 to test my ECU with the Thermocouple connected. I have identified that one of my thermocouple units is at fault. I am going to try an experiment I have purchased to K type thermocouple from eBay that I intend to try on my car as these were only $25 for 2. I need to change the connectors to the ECU to fit. I will let you know how I get on with this low cost mod.
     
  5. malex

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    #30 malex, Mar 23, 2020
    That's exactly what I did Simon. Only in my case, my thermocouples checked out but the exhaust bypass CCU was bad. I used a generic K-type thermocouple (0-1250 deg C, adjustable length) as a baseline, then observed cold vs hot voltage changes on my multi-meter. To make the thermocouple connection easier, and to experiment down the road with finding another solution to the CCU, I also bought a set of cheap connectors on Amazon as well, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KP369MF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    If your thermocouple solution works, please post the source. The K-type that I bought has adjustable length and an "L" bend but has a 1/8" NPT fitting rather than the correct metric fitting, plus it's 5mm dia for the entire length and doesn't step down to 3mm as does oem.
     
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    #31 355OXO, Mar 23, 2020
    This sounds very similar, my Thermocouple are adjustable for length too and do not step down either, i don,t think this matters. Beats paying Ferrari price.
     
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    #32 malex, Mar 24, 2020
    Simon, do you have a link for the source that you used? I can only find the thermocouple that I'm looking for with NPT fitting. Do you know if M8 is correct fitting size? Regardless, I might be able to reuse the nut from a failed thermocouple when needed.

    Agreed that it pays beating Ferrari prices. I know that Technistrada sells them for $30 but he hasn't had them in stock for a while.
     
  8. 355OXO

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    #33 355OXO, Mar 24, 2020
    That is why i went on EBAY as Technistrada was out of stock. The UK EBAY I.D. is 163898613905. I may have to change the fitting from my old Thermocouple.
     
  9. malex

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    #34 malex, Mar 24, 2020
    Thanks. We found the same thermocouple. Yours has the same 1/8" NPT fitting per the eBay listing.
     
  10. 355OXO

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    #35 355OXO, Mar 28, 2020
    I have now received the eBay thermocouple X 2. I have removed the original fittings and compared these with the fittings that come with the thermocouple and they appear to be the same. I think the trick is to work out where you want the olive on the shaft of the thermocouple and clamp this in place by compressing the joint with the fittings supplied. Then remove the fittings and use the threaded cap nut Supplied that has the same thread as my bypass pipes. I will fit these hopefully tomorrow and let you know how I get on.
     
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    #36 355OXO, Apr 1, 2020
    I am still working on the thermocouple connection to my bypass pipes using the original Ferrari nut as the one supplied with the thermocouple is the incorrect thread size. I have ordered different size olives that make the connection as the one supplied is too small to make a good clean airtight connection to the bypass pipes. I will update you further when the olives arrive and I have fitted these to the bypass pipes. Just wanted to update you on where I am.
     
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