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Shah of Iran 275 GTB ?

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  1. RHS

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    Hi,

    in the Ferrari and celebreties thread, Gaggi has provided the following list of Ferrari's owned by the Shah:

    Shah d’Iran:
    1957 410 Super America coupé Pinin Farina
    1965 500 Superfast
    1966 275 GTB
    1967 330 GTC
    1975 365 GT4 BB

    I am pretty sure that there should also be a couple of Daytona's included in the list.
    I think the 410 is in the US (?). The Superfast and the BB are on display in the National Car Museum in Iran. The 330 GTC is in storage (though I am not sure it was the one owned by him) at the museum, its wheels are being used on the Miura. A 365 GTC 4, apparently a gift from King Hussein of Jordan apparently was sold in auction in Switzerland and is still beleived to be in Europe.

    I was not aware of the 275 GTB listed above. Does anyone have any idea of its whereabouts ? Its history ? I would appreciate it if someone could shed light on it.

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  2. Boudewijn

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    He owned 2 Ferraris 500 Superfast. 6605SF is still in Iran, 7975SF is stored in the UK.
     
  3. 275GTBSaran

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    I am also not aware he owned a 275 GTB. I am not sure he did own that model.
    The shah was also a Maserati fan (5000 GT) and he also owned 1 or two Lamborghini.
    He certainly had good taste (and the money to go along with it).
     
  4. miurasv

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    #4 miurasv, Apr 12, 2013
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    The Shah owned a Miura SV and SV/J. His sister had a Miura S and here it is pictured (previously posted by Joe Sackey) with the Campagnolo allloy wheels that may belong to a Ferrari.
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  5. bitzman

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    The pictures I saw before of his collection were in a FRench language magazine called Automobiles Classique of a much darker storage place where I could only make out a Rolls Phantom V and a silver GT5300 Bizzarrini.
    What I want to know is, has any American or British person gone to Iran and successfully bought one of the Shah's cars at a bargain price and managed to get it out?
    I heard that Nicholas Cage owned a special Miura (had different initials like SV plus one other letter) that used to be the Shah's car, that he had paid a high amount for it at the time.

    I've heard others of the Shah's cars that were being serviced in Europe were never picked up so the shops eventually won ownership on accumulated storage costs
     
  6. miurasv

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    #6 miurasv, Apr 12, 2013
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    Nicholas Cage once owned the ex Shah of Iran Lamborghini Miura SV/J seen in the video below, a car which imo, although very rare with 5 being made, is not as desirable or as beautiful as the Miura SV:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJWrAqOfyk]Lamborghini Miura SVJ - YouTube[/ame]
     
  7. donv

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    Isn't that Miura now owned by a member here?
     
  8. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    The pretty blue was? It was owned by Joe Sackey (Fchatter of course) then sold to Jim Spiro who sold it to a second Fchatter in Louisiana (who now owns a green Miura) who sold it a few years back to someone in Bahrain.

    I can't remember the second Fchatter's username. It's his first and last name without a space between the two. His avatar is of the bright/lime green Miura.

    If you're referring to the maroon-colored one, I have no idea.
     
  9. BIRA

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    From memory, the red SVJ was owned at some point by RR a well known UK based ( incl Ferrari) collector with Iranian origins. Don't know if still the owner.
    And also as far as I know, cars in Iran have been moved to a sort of museum so they are no longer into the open garage full of dust where the original pictures referred to are mentioned.
    And I don't think that anyone is able to purchase or get anything out. Any car of the Shah that is out was a car standing outside Iran when the revolution occurred or car that had been sold before.
    On the other hand it is nice to see that they preserved the cars, unlike the royal cars found in Afghanistan which had a sad ending ( even if none were Ferrari!)
     
  10. 375+

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    Disagree. The Shah SVJ would command a multiple of what a production SV would bring. It is one of the most valuable of all Lamborghini.
     
  11. RHS

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    #11 RHS, Apr 14, 2013
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    Hi,

    Here is a picture of the one still in Iran.

    Regards,

    Ramin
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  12. RHS

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    Hi,

    The wheels belong to a 330 GT 2+2 which is being kept in storage in the museum. It was damaged at some point in its life (during the revolution) and is not displayable.

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  13. RHS

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    #13 RHS, Apr 14, 2013
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    Q: "The pictures I saw before of his collection were in a FRench language magazine called Automobiles Classique of a much darker storage place where I could only make out a Rolls Phantom V and a silver GT5300 Bizzarrini."

    A: The picture was taken of the storage area of the cars that are not in display in the museum., mostly due to lack of space and funding. The current curator is doing his best to expand the museum.

    The Classic Car Commitee of the Iranian Automotive Federation put together a volunteer group and refurbished (cosmetically) the Bizzarini and it is now on permanent display.


    Q: What I want to know is, has any American or British person gone to Iran and successfully bought one of the Shah's cars at a bargain price and managed to get it out?

    A: In the early post revolutionary era, many of the cars were sold at auction, as they were symbols of the excesses of the "ancien regime". These included not only the Shah's cars, but those associated with his family and other noted pre-revolutionary figures.

    Mostly, local Iranians would buy the cars at the auctions and then ship them overseas for re-sale. The Miura SVJ, was bought alongside 10 other cars by an Emirati gentleman, who then re-sold the car at auction in Geneva.

    Q: "I heard that Nicholas Cage owned a special Miura (had different initials like SV plus one other letter) that used to be the Shah's car, that he had paid a high amount for it at the time."

    A: This is the SVJ that I mention. Apparently he paid a record price for a Miura at the time. The car was subsequently sold to an Iranian gentleman in the UK. The Miura thread in FC covers this car extensively.


    Q: I've heard others of the Shah's cars that were being serviced in Europe were never picked up so the shops eventually won ownership on accumulated storage costs[/quote]

    A: I only know of one or two Rolls Royces that were being worked on at the the factory at the time of the revolution. After an long court battle with the heirs of the Shah, the court ruled in favor of the Iranian government and they are now in storage at the museum.

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  14. RHS

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    #14 RHS, Apr 14, 2013
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    A: I only know of one or two Rolls Royces that were being worked on at the the factory at the time of the revolution. After an long court battle with the heirs of the Shah, the court ruled in favor of the Iranian government and they are now in storage at the museum.

    Regards,

    Ramin[/QUOTE]

    Hi,

    Here is a picture of the unveiling of the Bizzarini at the museum at a special ceremony held.

    Regards,

    Ramin
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  15. RHS

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    I think the one you are referring to is a blue SV also owned by the Shah. It was owned by a FC member here, but is now in a collection in Bahrain. It was on display at the Kuwait Concours last year. The car is covered extensively in the Miura thread of FC.

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  16. RHS

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    Hi,

    Q: From memory, the red SVJ was owned at some point by RR a well known UK based ( incl Ferrari) collector with Iranian origins. Don't know if still the owner."

    A: Correct. I think he still is the owner. The car is covered extensively in the Miura thread of FC.

    Q: "And also as far as I know, cars in Iran have been moved to a sort of museum so they are no longer into the open garage full of dust where the original pictures referred to are mentioned."

    A: Correct the enthusiast community lobbied extensively to get the cars out of storage and put them on display. The museum was launched in 2002. It has a long way to go, but the curator is sympathtic and is doing his best to get more funding to improve the museum and get more cars on display.

    Q: And I don't think that anyone is able to purchase or get anything out. Any car of the Shah that is out was a car standing outside Iran when the revolution occurred or car that had been sold before.

    A: See my preceding post.

    Q: On the other hand it is nice to see that they preserved the cars, unlike the royal cars found in Afghanistan which had a sad ending

    A: Fully agree. The enthusiast community here did a lot to stop the sale of the cars and get the museum running.

    I had not heard of what took place in Afghanistan. Could you expand on that ?

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  17. miurasv

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    I agree that a Miura SV/J is more valuable than a SV. I was merely stating my preference for the SV which is more desirable to me personally.
     
  18. ferraripete

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    Your good taste in sportscars will never be questioned by me;)
     
  19. BIRA

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    for the fate of the royal cars in Kabul, look at this thread.

    Afghanistan King's Cars - Images | YumeVision
     
  20. miurasv

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    Thank you, Pete. You've just made my day. :)
     
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    On a similar note, how about all of the Ferraris, Gullwings, Pegasos and BMW 507's that were sent by the dozen to high-ranking officials in Venezuela, Peru, Colombia etc. in the late 50s-early 60s? They found a lot of them, sometimes woefully rusted out, in the 80s and early 90s. I know that a 507 owned by a Guatemalan United Fruit Company executive was found stashed away in Chiapas, Mexico in 1986, probably for safekeeping during the lengthy civil war. I reckon that at least 3 or 4 of the 50s Comp Ferraris that have been MIA for over 5 decades are still tucked away in some small grotto blanketed in burlap.
     
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  23. RHS

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    Hi,

    Thanks for the input. Do you have any idea or leads as to whether a 275 GTB was ever owned by the Shah ?

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  24. miurasv

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    There doesn't appear to be one at the National Car Museum of Tehran. Countach LP400, Miura P400S, 500 Superfast and 365 Boxer from about 4.30.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS4L3UEuauo[/ame]
     
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    Sorry, I got nothing to add other than this is a great thread! :)
     

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