Because of the SF90's position as the top regular production model, I presume its replacement will eventually be this full EV car since it will presumably be the top power model, question is will anything succeed the SF90 before then? There is no apparent SF90 successor in test mule form or reveal date rumor, and SF90 production will continue for next 2 years or so (Spider included), so that takes us until end of 2023, maybe into 2024; what happens then? Wait for the eventual full EV or have one more model...what will Ferrari do...hmm
I completely agree with your logic. IMO a V12 SUV is very dangerous because it has the potential to create a real ****storm against Ferrari. SUVs are considered as the ultimate environmental enemies, combine that with the biggest engine to be found in any SUV an off we go... I would reserve the V12 for the top emotional cars like a new mid-rear sports car. Cars for the pleasure of driving rather than utility vehicles. Contrary to that, also the spy videos Maranello hint at an V12 application in the upcoming Purosangue.
My dealer also did basically confirm that the spy videos with the V12 in Purosangue is accurate; thus model lineup will consist of a V12 (possibly small-scale) and a V6 hybrid.
I think Ferrari clearly indicated that we will not necessarily see consistent model lines in the future. I.e. there will not always be direct successors to outgoing models. Having that in mind, a new model that might be seen as a kind of replacement for the SF90 might not necessarily have the same positioning respectively philosophy.
Historically, when the order book is closed for a particular model the successor is being tested and many times has a known reveal date (for instance, the 812SF reveal was prior to the F12 order book being closed, same with the 488, etc.) Of course, that is now radically changed, the 812SF successor has no test mule, and only a rumored reveal set 3 years after its order book closed (not the 812GTS, but the SF though the 812GTS order book is now closed, so 2 years more for a rumored reveal from that model). However, the 296GTB, despite Ferrari indicating otherwise, is the F8 successor and was in test and was revealed before the F8 order book closed. Seems it is all random now, no more continuity. And it seems to me that will negatively affect their business, one model after the other has its order book closed, no successor for years, therefore no order queue. If nothing else, their dealers are not liking this at all. Perhaps Ferrari believes their FUV will be the order book champion and "make up" up for this lack of model continuity. If their FUV is just a big car like the FF/GTC, it will not (as those model's history has proven), if a full SUV then it probably will do well and that seems to be their plan...
Image Unavailable, Please Login they say sf90-vs will be the last ferrari f154-v8, then it is only v12 and v6 and maybe EV
Unfortunately with the way tech and the car world is moving, the replacement to the SF90 when it does roll around will probably be a V6 or even a V4. With the current market of manufacturers being forced into a more eco friendly lineup, I think we’ll be lucky enough if Ferrari isn’t all electric at that point. It’s sad to say but we really are in the last days of petrol powered cars. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I question whether the V6 will be used in a front engined application, given its wide 120deg V-angle and the difficulty of packaging that.
The head of M cars at BMW has recently said that the technology exists to keep their I6 and V8 engines in play through the end of the decade. Would be surprised if Ferrari abandons their V8 completely before BMW does. https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/tech-zukunft/alternative-antriebe/ex-bmw-chef-flasch-kuendigt-eigenstaendigen-m-an/
When reading through this thread the idea of the Plaid being a problem for the SF90 is hilarious. Electric cars have one performance party trick - acceleration. What the SF90 has done is to negate that (before we even think about the EV need for prep/recharging etc.), while still maintaining the performance advantage that ICE has over electric - better agility, better handling, more fun. The SF90 has matched the EV’s strength and ceded no ground on ICE strength due to its utterly brilliant handling and agility. It is a remarkable, best of both worlds car.
There's a simple solution to all this. Governments should allow for low volume manufacturers to sell up to 10K new ICE cars per year and require the owners to limit the mileage to say 4000 miles a year (which is more than almost any of us drives our Ferraris). Those 10K cars would produce about 30,000 metric tons of CO2 per year. Compared to the 5.5B metric tons per year produced by all ICE cars in service, it's literally an immeasurable impact on the environment. And everyone is happy. If 10 car manufacturers each produced 10K ICE cars per year, limited to 4000 miles per year, that's 0.00005% of the annual production of CO2 by all ICE cars currently in service.
I agree for the moment We will see what the Tesla roadster offers in agility We know it will have a crap interior so no threat there I do expect 4 motor electric cars with a focus on handling to come (hopefully using off the shelf Yamaha e motors with nearly 500 HP each)
Interesting article regarding not a replacement but a possible more hard core version of SF90. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login HD: 1. https://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Ferrari-SF90-Prototype-Spy-Shots-January-2022-002.jpg 2. https://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Ferrari-SF90-Prototype-Spy-Shots-January-2022-003.jpg 3. https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/01/ferrari-sf90-stradale-gears-up-for-c8-corvette-zora/
