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  1. Nosevi

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    #1 Nosevi, Nov 20, 2011
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    I keep reading on the forum how expensive these cars are to run and service. Granted they're not cheap and some of the work like engine or gearbox rebuilds etc can make your eyes water, but the prices paid over in the US seem way over what they are here in the UK. Main dealers are expensive over here but the specialists, using the same parts and more often than not manned by ex main dealer mechanics who have been stollen, seem to charge way less than over there.

    The specialists often now do fixed price services over here and here's an example from my neck of the woods. You need to add VAT at 20% to these prices then multiply by 1.56 to get US Dollars but they still seem way under what I keep reading you guys pay. These are for engine out cam belt services where applicable, just had mine done. Why the price differential? Most things are cheaper over there, why not servicing your ferrari?

    BTW ** is services where you pay extra for new plugs. You specify or supply what you want. No extra labour charge just the cost of the plugs.
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    #2 Nosevi, Nov 20, 2011
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    These prices include all parts and labour etc. Many of the Specialists over here in the UK have now gone this way with fixed price deals. Labour rates for other work is also not what it seems to be over there, only taking what some have said things cost. I pay less on labour at the Ferrari Specialist I use than I used to pay for work on my Wrangler. Anyway, interested what you all think, what you pay, and more importantly why?
     
  3. Ricambi America

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    This topic has already been covered in exhaustive detail on Fchat. There are a lot of legitimate business reasons.. one of them is business insurance which is quite different here in the USA
     
  4. Nosevi

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    #4 Nosevi, Nov 20, 2011
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    Any harm in chatting about it though? I had someone quote paying $6k for an engine out cam belt service. $3k differential seems quite a bit to me. I'm sure that there are legitimate business reasons for the difference, maybe the guy had a lot of other work done as well, so hope there's no harm in chatting about it. Would only be a problem if there weren't legitimate reasons for it. I pay about the same labour rate as a VW main dealer near me charges which seems fair and pay what the parts cost the Specialist to buy in.

    If the dealers would prefer I didn't ask feel free to PM me and say so but I would ask why?
     
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    #5 brian.s, Nov 20, 2011
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    "Cam Belt Service", what exactly do they mean and include for this?

    Labour cost is much lower in UK than over here, both in wages and taxes, insurance.

    Apples and oranges, nothing to compare.


    PS my folks live in Metheringham still.
     
  6. Nosevi

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    #6 Nosevi, Nov 20, 2011
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    By 'Cam Belt Service' they mean the once every 3 years (for a 348) service as per the service schedule which obviously has to include the engine being removed from the car. It includes all parts and work as specified by the service schedule. What do guys over there do during a service? Can't really see how that's apples and oranges unless you guys do a lot of work over and above the service schedule. Regarding the Labour costs, I guess that must be it unless parts are far more expensive.

    If I've accidentally hit a raw nerve I am sorry but I was just a little surprised when someone I'm in touch with over there quoted what he paid for an engine out cam belt service. Ok a little more than surprised. If this thread is 'not in the public interest' as it were I've got no issue with any of you guys (or anyone else for that matter) getting in touch with the mods and asking for it to be removed, I won't object or even say it shouldn't be. Was more curious to see how the price of owning a Ferrari fluctuates around the world and to see what the regional variations are. Your neck of the woods was the only area apart from the UK where I knew something about what the costs were. I was curious to know why there is such a large difference.
     
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    #7 Nosevi, Nov 20, 2011
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    Metheringham in Lincolnshire! Mate, you have got to be kidding me. I'm sitting about 2 or 3 miles from their house! Potterhanworth.
     
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    We in the UK pay 3 or 4 times more for our fuel than the US.
    , as well as most every thing else like ipads ect ect.
    So let them enjoy there over inflated service costs i say :)
    Gives me a warm feeling inside ;)
     
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    Ok mate, and you're right, I didn't mean to upset the service guys but was genuinely curious. Given the chance I'd buy a lot of stuff from the states (possibly even parts for my car) due to the cost differences. Just seems like owning one of these great cars the other side of the pond costs a bit extra in service charges. Was just wondering why?
     
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    You know how they can be mate, just let them get on with it ;)
     
  11. Nosevi

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    Right you are.
     
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    as previously mentioned UK pays way more on fuel when actually driving the thing. Mother Nature ensures it all balances out in the long run. Now stop fretting, get out and drive your car ;)
     
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    Will do when the guy doing the work on mine finishes. Can't wait! Thread on the work is on Fchat. Will probably have it just in time for the snow:(

    Someone from the US just asked how much I paid, including the service. I told him and I asked how much they did. Was a little bit of a difference so thought I'd ask around. Possibly a mistake. Still, live and learn.....
     
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    You are right Pete. They pay more in the US for work on their F-cars. The US is a big country and many are far from the dealerships(not that thats a bad thing). Thus the small independants have popped up all over the place. Many of them charging about the same as the dealer and doing piss poor work and thats the main reason the 355 gets a bad rap over here. Not only is it expensive but many opt to buy and drive these babies and then dump them. Thats mostly because many dont want to pay for the outrageous service. We have a similar problem in Canada but nowhere near as bad, as most of our Ferrari population lives near a stealership. If you are fortunate enough to live near Toronto we have Daytona and Rocks auto that are more than capable of doing a masterful job on our F-cars at a better rate than the dealer. If you live in the US then you are very lucky if you live near someone like Dave Helms or places like Eugeneos(spelling) and there are a few other places that are very good but there are many wannabe Ferrari shops that rape the owners and do a horrible job.
    I too was very surprised at the rates for service and parts in the UK as everything else is much more expensive than North America. Ive bought many parts from the UK and even with the shipping was cheaper than here.
     
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    We also pay big bucks in Oz for service and repairs on our Ferraris.

    The UK prices are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cheap, it's amazing.

    The US is more expensive than Oz from the prices I have seen, but only just.

    I am glad I am able to perform the repairs myself on my Ferrari. If I lived in the UK though, I would pay someone to do it. :eek:
     
  16. Nosevi

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    Hi Pap. I guess its just market forces. The UK is so small in comparison that I'm within easy reach of probably 5 or so Specialists and 2 main dealers. They have to fight for our business or they loose it. Admittedly the prices I've thrown up are towards the cheaper end of the market but the work there is first rate. Charges wise they get the parts cheaper than I seem to be sble to get them, that's what they charge me for them then there's just an hourly labour charge, same as any other garage. I'm not begrudging guys in other countries charging what they want, its their business not mine, was just surprised is all.
     
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    I don't believe you :)
     
  18. Nosevi

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    Hi Pete, how's life?
     
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    Great thanks.
     
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    Much cheaper in Australia than USA too

    Weird.
     
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    Get a room :p
     
  22. Nosevi

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    Just being friendly to our southern hemisphere cousins....
     
  23. PAP 348

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    Whom?
     
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    You guys down under ;)
     

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