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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Glickenhaus offers Vettel a seat for WEC.
     
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  2. Igor Ound

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    Spin master meets master of spin...
     
  3. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I'm thinking a WEC car would suit Seb much better than today's F1 cars. Downforce and weight will keep the thing planted. Vettel is fast, "just" has a problem with the current "nervous" type of F1 cars.
     
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  4. DeSoto

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    Vettel doesn´t feel confortable in traffic lately, and in endurance racing you´re always lapping or being lapped. So I don´t know...

    P.S: I still don´t know why Glickenhaus insists in living in the shadow of a giant.
     
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  5. jpalmito

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    i think you underestimate his psychological weaknesses.He is just gone.
     
  6. tifosi12

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    What do you mean by that?
     
  7. tifosi12

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    LOL, if I had said that somebody on here would have chimed in and called me a hater.

    You might be right. He is certainly very fragile and hurt right now but I think sitting in a dominating WEC at Le Mans would boost his confidence. And let's face it: WEC drivers are not even half his talent. He'd be heads and shoulders above the competition. As is basically any F1 driver who joins that series (damaged Kubica not withstanding).
     
  8. DeSoto

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    Well, he always finds an excuse to say how bad Ferrari has done this or that, completely out of the blue. For example, linking Vettel with SCG is a long shot, to say it bluntly, but it was an occasion to say how badly Ferrari treated him (BS, IMO). Even their logo seems like a declaration of intention.

    Wrongly, IMO, as they can do their own stuff and have their own personality without worrying about what others are doing. The exception would be those fake GTOs they want to build in a blatant attempt to get some cash from people with more money than imagination.
     
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  9. tifosi12

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    Ah, understood, thanks.

    Didn't know about the GTO angle. Got a link? Was that discussed on here somewhere? Haven't followed the scene in years.
     
  10. DeSoto

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    They call it SCG 006. It smells to quick cash like a sequel of a blockbuster.

    https://glickenhausracing.com/scg-006
     
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  11. Igor Ound

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    Fake Ferraris & Glickenhaus has a ring to it
     
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  12. DeSoto

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    We may like those cars or not, but they´re building something different from what Ferrari and all the "mainstream" brands are doing. That´s not a bad thing.

    Except the fake GTO, that is crap. I bet that Mr. Glickenhaus himself thinks that it´s crap, but those can be sold faster.
     
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  13. jpalmito

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    Theoretically you are right but history would tend to show that drivers who have had a long career in F1 are no longer competitive afterwards because in their mind it is a regression ( hakkinen , Alesi, coulthard etc ..)
     
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  14. tifosi12

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    Interesting comment. Hakkinen definitely was burnt out when he left F1. Alesi? Well, he was not much in F1, so who cares? DC: did he ever try something else beyond F1? Can't remember, not the greatest talent either.

    Then again we have Alonso who won Le Mans afterwards. And all the other soso F1 drivers who cleaned up at Le Mans and other series.

    That said, you might have a point: If they leave F1 because they're exhausted, they might not cut it elsewhere. If they have to leave F1 because they were soso, they might still be "usable" for other series and do ok.
     
  15. jpalmito

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    You just have to remember the DTM championship 15 years ago.
    The elephant's graveyard
     
  16. tifosi12

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    True dat. Currently it is Kubica's tombstone.
     
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    What do people mean by the 'Fake GTO'?
     
  18. jgonzalesm6

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    I believe it's in reference to the Glickenhaus SCG 003 car.
     
  19. DeSoto

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    006
     
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  20. jgonzalesm6

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    Thanks
     
  21. freshmeat

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    At this point do ppl (incl his supporters) really care where he goes?

    He's toast and when I take a moment to reflect, the only highlight reels that run through my head of his F1 career is the uncannily mirror-like clash w Leclerc (Brazil) and Webber (Turkey), multiple ignored "multi-21s" in both Ferrari & Redbull and all those silly spins...

    His legacy = Realization of how insanely talented Adrian Newey is
     
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  22. DF1

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    Spins and collisions. He has been hitting people as well.
     
  23. tifosi12

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    THAT is certainly true.

    But I think your review is overly harsh. You don't just luck into 4 WDCs. The guy is fast. Akin to Damon Hill fast: Wins every race from pole. Struggles when having to battle through the field. Insane speed and limited race craft.

    That all said, he will forever be in my mind as the Wunderkind who pulled off the "Miracle of Monza": Winning in a Minardi (I know, rebranded by then) in the rain. THAT showed his unreal car control. Sadly he lost all that by the time the rain started in Hockenheim while he was driving the Ferrari.

    A great driver whose time has come to do something else.
     
  24. DeSoto

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    I've never been his greatest fan, but he was not as bad as he looked in these latest years. He started to loose it in 2016 (I'll be forever grateful for that **** off Charlie) and went downhill when the team put him under scruteneering when brought Leclerc.

    But, oh well, c'est la vie. These are men, not machines, they learn up to a point and then they just get older.
     
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