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  1. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    In better hands there were possibly 2 titles for Ferrari!!
     
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  2. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I don't think all drivers are dummies, some have technical savvy.
    Engine modes may have been selected following their input, so in that case they understand how it works.
     
  3. Barbedwyre

    Barbedwyre Karting

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    Everyone complains of how boring F1 is now but an Alonso/ Leclerc vs Ham/Boattas would’ve been an amazing battle all around in 2018. I would’ve traveled to more races for that.
     
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  4. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    Another, in a long string of, changing drivers 1 or 2 seasons too early.
     
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  5. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    FA gave Ferrari a nice amount of time out of his life and should have had 1 title by pushing to the limit an under-performing Ferrari. I do not blame FA for leaving. He did the best he could literally with less than perfect equipment. Poorly timed yes but he gave 5 years 2010-2014. That is a long time.
     
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  6. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    #381 DeSoto, Jun 24, 2020
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    To know how these cars work, specially when talking about something "invisible" like electronics, you have to be an engineer, and a good one. In this case we´re talking about a very arcane "rule bend", so complex that even the FIA engineers couldn´t understand it.
     
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  7. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    Correcting the weak points of the team is good management, and Vettel had become one of them, and even worse, he was a very expensive weak point. Still a lot of job to do, but it´s a good beginning.
     
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  8. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

  9. ingegnere

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  10. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Ouch LOL
     
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  11. paulchua

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    I hope you're wrong, but your comment is too close to the truth.

    Vettel was paid 120million to win a championship, not crash and make more unforced errors then his peers, including a 2nd year rookie.
     
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  12. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Quite the accurate summary of his time so far.
     
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  13. ingegnere

    ingegnere F1 Veteran
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    Hope I’m wrong too. Watch him finally come good after, as you so well stated, $120M and many wasted opportunities - including a couple of potential championships.

    In any case, I don’t wish him any bad luck - he seems like a nice enough guy - but not feeling sorry for him, that’s for sure. Especially considering how much money he’s made being mediocre.
     
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  14. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

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  15. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Ouch.Seb will come out boxing,ding ding round 1 coming up!
     
  16. paulchua

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    ouch indeed! if true, a slap to the face, but one of his own making.
     
  17. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    I agree! Also why Vettel makes this comment now? Messaging to Binotto. Useless it is for him. He has a record of winning but not since he left Red Bull a long time now. There is some 'bitterness' hidden I feel ................
     
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  18. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

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    1 year lowball offer must have been even more insulting?
     
  19. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    From the link - No offer at all lol - Thats an assessment of his worth. Very very damaging.

    "And he has said that he and Ferrari never got into talks over a contract and that he was never offered a deal."

    Was it not Vettel who leaked the news before the team could provide its position to the press as well???? Poor form if true but I do not think he executes emotional decisions well at all.
     
  20. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    They probably had enough of hearing him shrieking over the radio like a child.
     
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  21. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Thats only what we are allowed to hear lol. Im sure the team has more stories lol :)
     
  22. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    last crazy rumors from spain.
    alonso will drive very soon for renault..
    ricciardo to mclaren before the season end.
    Sainz free to go to Ferrari earlier
    Vettel ?
    Plausible when you consider what he said about his contract renewal today
     

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