Hi Everyone, I just wanted to get an opinion on what you think about Scurderia vs. 997.2 GT3 RS as they can be had for around the same price right now and I'm looking at and test driving both. I understand that they are completely different cars. Though somewhat similar in purpose, but different in so many ways. From the standpoint of driving the car around 3000 miles/year, which one do you think will have a higher resale value in about 5 years? We all love and hate these crystal ball questions, but I appreciate everyone's opinion on this. Thank you.
I have a scud and a 6RS, pal has a 7RS, I expect in five years they will both have a simliar increase in value. A lot of it depends on what the manufacturers continue to do. Ferrari will remain turbo and Porsche at the moment are keeping RS naturally aspirated. (talk of the newest RS's - not the 991 Gen 2 RS - being a hybird of some description) If porsche become turbo, tip only then 997RS Manual will fair better. If they keep naturally aspirated and offer manual then the demand for the newer cars will redcue the demand for the older RS's. Porsche do keep the RS's limited but I have heard that they are producing 6000 of the new RS which will stop the high demand above list for new cars. (That will affect the residual of all modern RS). They are very different cars, Scud is more special than the 7RS in my opinion but both are superb cars. 15k miles on a 997RS wont affect the value to much, but it will on a ferrari as ferraris are more price/mileage affected. regards Scott.
I've owned both and much prefer the scud for the driving experience. As for values, it's hard to say but the Porsche is definitely less sensitive to mileage if you plan to drive a lot. Rumor is that the next gt3 will be offered with manual. If that happens, I'd bet that 997 gt3 values will come down a bit.
Have owned a 997.2 GT3 RS but not a Scuderia - have driven my share though. Both cars are special. and very much so. Two different manufactures and two ways of doing the same thing. The 997.2 GT3 RS feels just as much like an exotic as the Scuderia does. Why? Because it is an exotic through-and-through. Drive both, and buy the one you like. Both are great unique cars filled with emotion and passion, so don't let anyone tell you the GT3 RS is a lesser car, just because it has a different emblem - it's simply not the case. The GT3 RS is exactly what a pure bred sports car is all about, just like the Scuderia.
The 991.2 GT3 will be offered as a manual, no if's or but's about it. I don't think it will impact the GT3 RS market though. The 997.2 GT3 yes, but not the 997.2 GT3 RS. That's a bit like saying the 488 VS will drive Scuedria prices down, and I can't see that happening.
Ive owned these two cars at thesame time in the not so distant past. My Scud is gone but my RS is still here. These two cars are so different. Both of them will appreciate. I boils down what you want in your garage. The market for this 2 cars are is so different, they are affected by different factors. And a ferrari car would never affect the selling price of a porsche and vice versa because anybody buying either one would care less about the other. I am just lucky to sell my toys about or more than how much I bought them. Investment?Naaah
Thanks for your thoughts and opinions. Picked up the scud today. First f-car and super excited. Now I really know how bad some of the roads near my house are lol. The 7 RS will have to wait... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No wrong decision here. Unless I am out of touch with the Scud market, aren't they priced kind-of close to a 991 GT3 RS for good Scuds? If you are stuck on a 997 though, Scud will win the value proposition. If you can grab a 991, the difference in performance and running costs may turn the pendulum the other way.
Nice car, looks very clean. I found the scud in race mode with springs soft (thanks Schumi) to be a very nice ride on most of the crappy roads in my area and a very nice ride on the good ones. Great cars, enjoy.
I've had the car for about 4 days of which 2 of those days it's been raining here in Southern California (we do need the rain but...) and the car is awesome! Still getting used to the different driving settings and how to shift smoothly with the F1 but it's a really special car. Can't wait to drive more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
At the media road launch of the Scuderia, way back, I remember the Ferrari press guys telling us to put the car in Bumpy Road mode - I think it was the first time that button had appeared on steering wheels - and Race for optimum real world road dynamics. Apparently there was a lot of push back from macho journalists who didn't like the idea that a more compliant setting would improve the handling, but it was a revelation (and I think must have inspired McLaren for the amazing ride in the 650S), given the astonishing driver experience of the Scuderia. Happy driving.
I was told from the dealer that most do Race plus bumpy setting as the typical everyday driving set up as the shifting is faster and the suspension is more livable. With that being said I almost spun out getting onto the freeway yesterday. I think if I were in sport mode the computer may have saved me earlier but I'm not sure (and I'm sure cold tires contributed to the fish tail). Scared the crap out of my wife. Lol Definitely learning the car and how much throttle I can give it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
@ Shark01 - I never really considered the 991.1 GT3 RS. I think the dealers are asking $230-260 for those cars. The Scud I ended up buying has almost 19K miles on it as I wanted a car I could drive, so I prefer a "higher" mileage car to make sure that everything worked, things got replaced, etc. Truth be told, the Scud I got is priced similarly to low mileage 997.2 GT3 RS', so their prices aren't really the same given an apples to apples comparison. I used to have a 996 GT3 and a 991 (with PDK, so the wife could drive it). I also have a 986 Boxster MT which I'm using primarily for the track (I still consider myself a beginner). I really driving enjoy 3 pedal cars. Though the 7.2 RS and Scud are quite different, they came from around the same time and represented the ultimate street legal race cars for their brands. I did test drive the 458 Italia, and that test drive really reminded me of the 991 - a comfortable, convenient car (though a heck of a lot faster!). The 458 was perfect. Maybe too perfect. It didn't give me the driver's experience as the 996 GT3 and even my Boxster does. The Scud really spoke to me from a driver's perspective. The 991 made bad drivers look good. You couldn't mess up. I imagined the 458 would be similar in that respect if I continued to drive it. I haven't driven the 991 GT3/RS, but I would imagine it might be "too perfect". I could be completely wrong on that, but I feel that the 997s and F430s are more "emotional" than their 991 and 458 counterparts (if that makes any sense). That's not to say that 991 and 458 aren't good cars to have. They are the ultimate exotic daily's - 365 days of ear to ear smiles driving them all year long. But I "feel" that the Scud and 7.2 GT3s are more "special".
Congrats on the Scud! You'll love it. I have a 997.2 GT3 (and a lot of .2 RS seat time), and a Scud. While I love both cars and don't plan of parting with either, if I had to give one up it would probably be the GT3. The GT3 and Scud are very different experiences; both very excellent. I felt the same way about the 458. The 991 GT3 RS however, is highly involving. I could see trading the GT3 for that one day. Losing the manual would be the biggest deterrent, however, like the Scud, the paddles suit the character of the car better I think (my old 360 was a manual, and I feel the same way about paddles on the Scud).
I have both. For a long time, I felt the 997.2 RS was my favorite and best car. I wouldn't sell it and it's hard not to grab more of them at these prices. I've added a couple things like a higher wing, 4.0 steering wheel, Sharkwerks headers and exhaust, and red alcantara seat inserts that make it perfect to me. Having said that, I have collected the 16M and Scud more aggressively. The 16Ms as collectibles and the Scuds more as drivers. Both of these cars represent a visceral rawness I find lacking in the later generations of the same car brands. While I love my 458SA and 488 Spider, they don't have the same crack as does a Scud. Similarly, while I recognize the 991 RS is a superior track weapon to the 997.2 RS, the lack of a third pedal and a different road feel make it a less desirable car to me. If I had to choose just one, I'd do what you've done and purchase a Scud. My favorite tip when test driving a Scud from the owner dealer was: "If you don't see the shift lights, you can downshift."
If it helps, I own a 997.2 GT3 RS, and an F430 manual, not the Scud. I would never tell anyone to buy an F430 over a GT3 RS. The RS is truly probably the most involving car I've ever driven. F430 has it's strong points but I don't own a Scud for a direct comparison. I've driven a couple dozen supercars experience wise.
with the 3-pedal coming on the upcoming RSR-engine equipped 991 GT3, I can't wait to see how prices of its predecessors react, particularly the RS'. There's even a strong rumor that there will be a 4.0L Cayman GT4 RS...things are going to get lively in the Porsche world.
Owned a SCUD with the 997.2 RS at thesame time. Then my RS and Speciale. I kept my RS now. They are not better than the other. 2 different flavors. I wish the SCUD comes in a manual, sometimes I wish the RS has the Superfast Transmission, cant have it all. I dont believe the RS would be affected by the 991.2 GT3 having a manual option. Just by the RS badge in itself. And as long as the next RS would be only in a PDK. But even if the next RS be offered a manual, the 997RS being the last MEZGER, it would still keep its premium in the LONG TERM. People value heritage, Racing heritage to be exact. Its one of the most proven race engines available in a street car, that until now is being raced. Owned also a 991 GT3. In line for a 991.2 RS. BUt Ill keep my 997 RS. They dont make cars like they used too.
