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430 Scuderia Clutch Bleed with X431

Discussion in '360/430' started by Animate, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. Animate

    Animate Formula Junior

    May 21, 2004
    263
    BC,Canada
    #1 Animate, Oct 29, 2020
    I've got a Launch X431 Mini ProS with Ferrari V10.95. Trying to do a clutch bleed.
    I'm using the following steps but can't see a clutch bleed option:
    Diagnose
    Ferrari
    430 EVO8
    F131E EVO8
    Gasoline
    System Selection
    Marelli Semi Automatic Gearbox System CFC301
    Special Function

    There is no clutch bleed option in the subsequent screen.

    Could I ask for a bit of guidance. Is there another menu I should be following?

    Thanks,
    James
     

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  2. tstuli

    tstuli Karting

    Jun 12, 2018
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    #2 tstuli, Oct 29, 2020
    Do you see it on another ferrari or maserati (the QP uses the cfc301). Sometimes the menus are inconsistent between models.

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  3. flash32

    flash32 Formula 3

    Aug 22, 2008
    2,230
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    Dominick
    #3 flash32, Oct 29, 2020
    The scuderia is the elp option and as mentioned check special functions under the 231 version under elp

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  4. flash32

    flash32 Formula 3

    Aug 22, 2008
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    Dominick
    #4 flash32, Oct 29, 2020
    Just a fyi .. 10.95 seems to have added the ediff functionality that was missing on the tool. I haven't tried it but I figured I let you know it is there

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  5. Animate

    Animate Formula Junior

    May 21, 2004
    263
    BC,Canada
    #5 Animate, Oct 29, 2020
    Thanks for the replies. I'll give it a try. Flash...that's good to hear it may support E Diff bleeding.
     

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  6. epb0

    epb0 Rookie

    Feb 27, 2015
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    FRANCE
    #6 epb0, Oct 30, 2020
    430 ELP/ Marelli Semi-Automatic Gearbox System CFC231 / Special Function / Clutch actuator bleed
     
  7. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula Junior

    Jun 27, 2017
    402
    Santa Clarita, CA
    #7 Extreme1, Oct 30, 2020
    This^^^^


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  8. Sj_engr

    Sj_engr Karting

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    #8 Sj_engr, Oct 30, 2020
    Yeah it seems the F1 bleed and the actuator bleed are the same function, run pump for X seconds. It is a super easy process once you get the under body panels off. I did see the e-diff but skipped it since my fluid came out bright red and my clutch is only worn 9-10% so guessing a clutch swap and fluid was done sometime recently.
     
  9. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula Junior

    Jun 27, 2017
    402
    Santa Clarita, CA
    #9 Extreme1, Oct 30, 2020
    The X-431 will run the pump for I think 30 seconds. It says how’s long the pump will run on the X-431 screen. I ran it once, refilled the reservoir, then ran it a second time and refilled the reservoir. The fluid came out bright red. I’m using Mobil 1 synthetic auto trans fluid.
    Like mentioned above, it was really easy. Daniel on You Tube demonstrates it in his video, and I just followed along.


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  10. gatago

    gatago Karting

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    #10 gatago, Oct 30, 2020
    James, does the new software version allow keys to be programed? Previous versions didn't have the option.
     
  11. Sj_engr

    Sj_engr Karting

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    #11 Sj_engr, Oct 30, 2020
    Someone shared a procedure where 16 key presses put the car into a learning mode. Then a unlock on the new key, then ignition turn with old key
    Is that for programming new remotes or just getting already synced ones to "wake up"
     
  12. gatago

    gatago Karting

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    #12 gatago, Oct 30, 2020
    Can’t be this easy can it?!? Anyone try the procedure?
     
  13. Sj_engr

    Sj_engr Karting

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    #13 Sj_engr, Oct 30, 2020
    Someone posted that worked on a 360. Another tip was that if the car locked with the new key press that you need to manually unlock with a key and not press the old fob before turning on the ignition.
     
  14. Animate

    Animate Formula Junior

    May 21, 2004
    263
    BC,Canada
    #14 Animate, Oct 30, 2020
    Thanks all. Using 430 ELP got me to the clutch bleed procedure.

    I ran it twice. Each time it bled 100ml of fluid. Does this sound correct? I was expecting more.

    Also, I thought I read somewhere that the Scuderia was EVO8 rather than ELP. Is this true? Is it just that the clutch bleed routine wasn't put in all sections?

    Marco, I have to be connected to the car to see what other functions are available. I'll check this weekend.
     
  15. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula Junior

    Jun 27, 2017
    402
    Santa Clarita, CA
    #15 Extreme1, Oct 31, 2020
    That amount of fluid sounds correct. Just keep doing it until the fresh fluid comes out the bleeder hose.


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  16. Animate

    Animate Formula Junior

    May 21, 2004
    263
    BC,Canada
    #16 Animate, Nov 1, 2020
    Would the key programming be under the Bosch Immobilizer System? If so I just checked that function and it doesn't do anything, at least with my car.
     

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