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SCG 003 and SCG 003C (formerly known as "P 33")

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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #126 Napolis, Mar 17, 2013
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    Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus is based in Turin Italy and New York. It races under both the Italian and US flags as clearly displayed at all of our races.

    By Proclamation of the Mayor Turin and The Italian Ministry of Transportation in a ceremony held at The National Auto Museum of Italy Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus and P 4/5 Copmetizione also race under the Shield of the City of Turin and the Shield of The National Auto Museum of Italy. After our first 24 race at The Ring P 4/5 Competizione was displayed as raced in that museum as 44 year earlier Ferrari 330 P 3/4 0846, which we now own, was displayed in that museum as it raced and won the 24 Hours of Daytona.

    Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus is also heavily involved with Politecnico of Turin and P 33 will be designed, engineered and built in Turin by Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus.
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  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  3. Milanno

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    #128 Milanno, Mar 17, 2013
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    You made parallel office in Turin so you can properly add "Scuderia" to your team name (among other things) - pretty common strategy these days...fair enough in my book.

    Can you tell me more about visual identity of your logo/shields, who was responsible for design? Also I am interested in flag colors on your shields...
    Comparison: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

    Thanx for input. That determines your direction in design. Like I said, I expect inspiration for your new car from Alfa Romeo. It would be mind-blowing if you make something that is in dimensions similar to new 4C with 500 hp output :)
     
  4. wax

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    *chuckles*

    Turin & NY . . .

    Edit: See post by 'Napolis addressing this misunderstood "issue"

    via rubber ducky
     
  5. Milanno

    Milanno Formula Junior

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    Take a look on my post above :)
     
  6. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Your silly trolling is boring me.

    As I'm putting you on ignore should anyone feel this troll says anything that needs answering let me know.
     
  7. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    JIm, first of all congrats on your new project, i´m pretty sure it will be a stunner.....does the "33" have anything to do with the engine displacement? When i heard the neme i imidatli thought about the alfa, because it´s one of the most beautiful cars ever made and it´s a very small light one, just what you are aiming for but perhaps the name is related to the engine capacity?
     
  8. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Hi

    As Henry Ford said:

    "I always tip my hat when an Alfa Romeo drives by."

    P 33 is a hat tip to Alfa although it will be a totally new forward looking design.

    P 33's raison d'etre is to bring lightness and simplicity back to Sports Cars.

    Several have privately asked if we would consider a small run along the lines of customer
    "New Stratos". It's early days but we may consider it.
     
  9. 250P

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    Very exciting. Thanks for sharing! Ready for the journey ;o)
     
  10. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The Journey is the Destination.
     
  11. 250P

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    Ktm x-bow who's chassis is by Dallara. 4c's is also by Dallara I believe.
     
  12. NeuroBeaker

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    I was just thinking the same thing myself. :D

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  13. Tenney

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    ... influenced by P4/5. Congrats in advance!!

    (7-year complimentary maintenance if badged a Ferrari ...?)
     
  14. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    :)
     
  15. Napolis

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    #140 Napolis, Mar 17, 2013
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    One thing we're thinking about is using camera's instead of side mirrors. This could reduce drag a lot.

    On Ferrari P 4/5 by pininfarina we used the mirrors as aerodynamic devices to trim wake turbulance that rolled off of the spoiler/wing but eliminating the stalks altogether would really help in reducing drag and we could smooth wake turbulence with integral winglets.

    You really learn a lot about a car's aero when you unweight it.
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  16. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    You also learn a lot about a car when you take it racing and taking P 33 racing at some point might be a lot of fun.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K96gzH4DeuA&feature=youtube_gdata]Ferrari P4/5 Competizione Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus 24h Nürburgring 2012 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  17. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Assuming you use the Maserati motor, I would assume you arent going to use the autobox thats its likely to be mated with. Unless you know that Maserati will be using a DSG type box....even then such a gearbox may be too heavy.
     
  18. Napolis

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    Early days.
     
  19. Bill S

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    #144 Bill S, Mar 17, 2013
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    In my opinion, to make it really shine above what's out there now and in the near future by Porsche and Ferrari (and not look and feel like a "kit" car) it would need...

    1. 0-100, 0-200 and 0-300 kph acceleration at least as good as the last generation Ferrari and Porsche supercars (e.g., CGT and Enzo).
    2. Skidpad and Slalom better than GT3 RS.
    3. Top speed 190 mph or higher. Super stable at high speeds. Doesn't lift, wander, bump steer, etc.
    4. Meets all federal and state safety and emission requirements.
    5. Feels solid, like a GT3 RS, with no squeaks or rattles – Like it's made from a single block of steel.
    6. Commanding big screen view of the road ahead, like the McLaren F1. None of that "slit" view we're seeing in nearly all the new sport cars (e.g., MB SLS and MP4-12C).
    7. Throttle response like a NA engine.
    8. New Exotic look to accommodate the commanding road view. Attracts people regardless of their knowledge of cars. Everyone says WOW!
    9. Super high quality compact coupe-like design with or without removable top. Far beyond the other lightweights (e.g, Lotus).
    10. 9,000+ rpm redline with a sound that sends chills up your spine!
    11. Manual shift, dual-clutch paddle shifters, or something even more fun and engaging!
    12. Makes the original Ruf Yellow Bird look and feel like a toy!
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  20. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Bill the only thing it has to do is make me as happy as my other Concept Cars have.

    Dino Competizione
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    P 4/5 Competizione
    The Baja Boot
     
  21. 250P

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    11. Sadev - Gearbox conception
    12. That puppy isn't a toy, unless your name's Stefan Roser ;o)
     
  22. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Interesting.

    It's certainly not.
     
  23. 250P

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    The choice of many champions incl Sebastian Loeb. Proven world wide in various Motorsport applications.
     
  24. Bill S

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    Works for me. I get happiness out of imagining cars that even the most discerning observer says WOW! Fortunately, and sometimes unfortunately, I work with plenty of those from all over the world.
     
  25. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Racing gearboxes are great but on the road they aren't for everyone. The Sequential box we use in P 4/5 C is wonderful, very strong, and you can shift it without a clutch if you're good. It does have to be warmed up before use and is a touch noisy.
     

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