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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by czlandi, Mar 31, 2021.

  1. cavsct94

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    Perhaps more in the spirit than in the letter of your list, but I'd say a 997.2 911 C2S.
     
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  3. Solid State

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    I don't get the point of the OP. Everything posted negative about the 812 was well known before its introduction. It was in fact its selling features. In this respect Ferrari has not changed but more like the OP has. Buy a comparatively small, light, cheap, slow car if that's what your driving habits and road conditions dictate.
     
  4. EnzoItaly

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    If you like the mechanical feeling... I’d certainly prefer a 993 above a Boxster.
     
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  5. Bartleby7344

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    2015/16 Boxster GTS manual is the sweet spot. 330hp, not too heavy, perfect balance, choice of suspension modes.
    Only negative (for me) is the programmed exhaust overrun pops and bangs... purely for ‘drama’. Some like that.
     
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  6. Newjoint

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    Alfa 4C- ticks all your boxes and will only get rarer as it’s no longer in production- a bit stiff suspension for your B roads but with a carbon tub and relatively easy to fix mechanicals should hold up well in the long term


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  8. Husker

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    You’ve got 20 years left? That’s good to know!
     
  9. ross

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    i had similar thoughts a while back (and luckily before i bought anything like an 812 :) )

    here are my suggestions....
    ferrari 430. it is the last red blooded ferrari with a nice design, easy enough to drive and maintain, and if something untoward happens, you will not care.
    new nsx. it is very modern tech, very well made, very good handling, powerful enough, anonymous, and once again, if somebody kills it, you shrug and walk away.
     
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    Ferrari Daytona.
     
  11. tbakowsky

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    Cement truck?
     
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  13. Caphill

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    Better top...I like our weird red hooks on the back of the car! The somewhat skunkworks feeling of the car is endearing. Also, I’ve learned that rain isn’t a problem if I stay above 40 mph.
     
  14. daveyator

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    I went to an "18 Boxster S after the F430. If there was a 4 wheeled motorcycle this car has to be close. But alas it just didn't have the "muscles" I was used to so I wound up with a '17 911 GTS. It out drives the 430 in most ways and you don't cringe that'll cost you a few thousand dollars every time you start it. I do still miss the sound of a Ferrari though.
     
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  15. Zack

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    TVR Sagaris, T350, Cerbera, Tuscan, or even a Griffith or Chimera

    None of them come with ABS, though, so you have to be careful in the wet. There are aftermarket traction control systems you can fit for something like 1000 quid.

    Other than TVR, the only marque that delivers is Aston or Porsche, but on the Porsche side, nothing is exciting till you spend more than your budget.

    You can always keep the 812 and get rid of your neuroses. Keying? Widow maker? Seriously? Learn to drive, and learn not to be paranoid.
     
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  16. ginoBBi512

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    I have never driven a front mounted V12, Ferrari or other. My experience with my 328 has been, no matter what speed Im motoring. the car feels great, so for me, the fun factor, and driver involvement are very satisfying , which makes it such a fantastic drivers car. I would have to think, that the 812 , being that it is a V12, with 850 HP, would be a lot of fun to drive at slower speeds, in whatever gear you select to have the car revving in such a way that the motor would scream out to you " isnt this a blast? " The sound has to be insane ! I know because I heard one ripping down the 101 going the opposite way, with the music on, I still heard it, and turned my head and saw that it was an 812 . You only go as fast as your right foot presses on the throttle. Keep the drivers aids on, hit a couple of corners, even in the rain, get a feel for the traction control, and without a doubt, the more you practice, the more fun you will have. It does not matter so much the roads, you can still have a lot fun in that car !! My V4 S is wicked fast, way to much power for the street you might say, but Im using the rider aids, and getting my nerve up and snapping the throttle on a few different corners and letting the bike step out, the traction control kicks in , and its a great feeling. I dont think selling that 812 and taking such a beating on the initial investment makes any sense, matter of fact, you can have so much fun in that car, you wont need to buy another car, the 812 is all you need. Like I said, before, guys are selling their Ferraris before they even get a chance to experience them, I mean you have all those electronics, to help you get acquainted with it , and to pick what settings suit your driving style, and once you get better and better, you can select the modes that accompany your skill level at that time. Im doing the same thing with my new Ducati, my God, its taken me 8 months so far, just to figure out all the different modes and settings and what have you, its kind of fun to be honest with you, as I get better at riding it, I can customize all of the settings to match my skill level. I would think that it would be as much fun doing this in your 812 . The Ducati even has electronic compression and rebound damping, you can set it your self, or let the bike do it automatically while your riding , Dynamic is what they call it.

    Thank you
     
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  17. tbakowsky

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    So many cars out there to choose from. That said..and having driven them all, still nothing compares to a Ferrari.
     
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    Tons of parts. Easy to maintain. Up to date electronics with all the nannies to use or not. Removable top or vert. No rust body.A real head turner. Now with right hand drive. Good for a couple of hundred thousand miles. C8. I love mine and no it's not a Ferrari in a few bad ways but many good ways.
     
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  19. GTS Bruce

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    So I'm now in my 70's and much of the time not hammering around like I used to. Tired of the Italian kisses and bought a practical C8. BUT I still think about my near 2nd choice. A Bentley continental gt or gtc with the 12. Almost time for one but not quite yet.
     
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  20. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Is anyone interested in swapping for a Jensen Healey?
     
  21. Newjoint

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    The Ducati rider aides are to prevent high or low siding the bike on curves or turns and minimize wheelies on acceleration. The V4 also has a more flexible frame than the prior V2 Panigales so feels much better when leaned over over rougher pavement even with the various suspension settings off. I usually have kept the aides to a minimum except in poor weather conditions and the aides in the 812 have a similar effect. Both have enough power to overcome the aides if applied quickly and harshly enough though. Smooth on and smooth off for throttle and brakes makes for a better experience with both vehicles and keeps my pants clean and dry.
    Safe riding/driving!




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  22. ScottJon

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    GT4 is amazing. I love the Boxster/cayman’s. Really fun


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  23. jumpinjohn

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    Where is the OP?

    Lots of good suggestions here. I love my 812 and yes it is absurdly powerful.

    So far, no worries from envious people hurting it - always thumbs up. I just use wet mode in the rain, but we don’t get much rain here.

    If I could only have one car, it would likely be that Porsche Cs4 convertible that I sold getting into Ferrari world.

    If you just want a small fun car under the radar, go with an Abarth 500 or Mini CooperS.


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  24. curvesurfer

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    Have you driven a Boxster GTS or Spyder 981 or 718 4.0? They're some of the finest sports cars available at any price; more balanced, refined, and faster than the 993, with spectacular manual transmissions. The 981 in particular has a glorious, snarling LeMans soundtrack. They've been described as Porsche's modern interpretation of the F355....

    I gravitate towards older Ferraris for some of the same reasons as the OP: modern supercars from all marques have become exercises of excess. Too much power, too big, too expensive to buy/maintain, too much depreciation. They're trophies and wealth displays. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever. But for folks seeking truly driver-focused cars without the excess, the options raised here (e.g. Alfa 4C, Cayman/Boxster/GT4, Lotus) or older Ferraris are very rewarding.
     
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  25. curvesurfer

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    Or get the 2016 model with the 3.8, same better top, sounds better than 4.0, has a slightly more street-oriented suspension, and has already depreciated (a little).
     
  26. ZF123

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    996.1-997.2 GT3/RS.. Not mid engined, but my 996 GT3 puts a massive smile on my face! Might have a few code browns in the wet though (no tc/esp, only assist is ABS!). I would rec test driving one if u’re considering a GT4. The 6GT3 is insane bang for buck, imo it’s much more fun/engaging than a GT4. Shd be a solid investment too (if you end up selling)
     
  27. Sig. Roma

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    Just a thought, (and some might say this is heresey), but how about a Ford GT40 replica, put a 400 BHP engine into it, and you have plenty of power, plus fun etc.
     
  28. Husker

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    Agree on all! Except no power steering.
     

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