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  1. tifosi12

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  2. DFexotic

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    Overall i thought it was a fun movie. Bruhl's portrayal of lauda seemed dull, one dimensional and flat but maybe thats how they wanted it to be. still seemed a little overdone to me. did hunt actually ever punch out a journalist?
     
  3. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    Something left out of the movie, the 4th round in Spain, Luada broke three ribs riding his garden tractor, as it rolled over on him. Hunts 4th round win is attributed in part to Lauda being under duress from the broken ribs.

    Go to 11:32. I have tried to copy the url at present time, but it will not work for me. Also, the "Big Balls" comment is actually said. That surprised me, as well as him being disqualified for the car being too wide. So, I am finding that by watching this video on youtube, it appears to be more accurate than most other "racing movies", at least on the surface.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EDGV7U3vqU4#t=688
     
  4. ricksb

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    Hunt was also penalized for having "illegal fuel" in Monza (I wonder if Ferrari had anything to do with that?). I thought the film was brilliant...it simply isn't possible to capture every detail without making it a 4-hr biopic.

    The previous post about Bruhl as Lauda isn't fair. Niki WAS "dull, one-dimensional and flat", that's why Bruhl is being mentioned for an Oscar. He transformed himself into Lauda even better than Thor played Hunt (which I thought was strong also)
     
  5. DFexotic

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    i wouldnt call it unfair, i questioned whether it was intentional or not and it seems it was. Im no formula 1 expert, let alone an expert on driver personalities from 2 decades before i was even born.
     
  6. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Lots of great scenes that literally made the whole theater laugh out loud. One of my favorites was Niki complaining to the Ferrari worker about the car being a piece of junk and then mocking the guy's reaction, LOL!!! Great stuff.
     
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    Best Racing Movie I have Ever Seen. Period.
     
  8. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Rated R movies never really attract a wide audience. They probably knew they would get that rating from the get-go given the nudity scenes, drug use, and morbid images. Probably why their budget is that low and didn't spend tons advertising it with previews played during the blockbuster PG13 summer movies earlier this year. It will do well in the box office, though, and gross several times over its budget worldwide.
     
  9. Crawler

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    I was at that race, the '74 British GP. Lauda was blocked by throngs of people from exiting the pits after changing a flat tire with just a few laps to go. He had led the entire race handily up until that point but ended up 12th.

    After the race, I wandered over to the paddock and was standing by the Ferrari transporter. There was a loud bang as "someone" obviously kicked the side of the transporter very hard from the inside. A minute or two later, Niki emerged looking very upset.

    Ferrari protested and were subsequently awarded fifth place by the FIA.
     
  10. Ferraripilot

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    Saw it last night, thoroughly impressed. Not just a racing movie.
     
  11. Gatorrari

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    I had never heard of Lauda ordering the BRM mechanics to make changes to the car the first time he saw it, and then ordering Louis Stanley to put Regazzoni in the modified car to prove that the changes worked! That took a lot of guts for a young, inexperienced driver to do that.

    (The fact that the changes made so much difference just proved just how far BRM had already fallen by that time. 1973 was their last full season as a full-blown team.)

    I also wonder if Niki ever really thanked Regazzoni for, effectively, getting him the Ferrari ride. I've never heard that mentioned.
     
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    I'm not surprised about the accuracy: Howard did that with Apollo 13 as well. Yes, there is a list of stuff on Apollo 13 of tiny details they got wrong, but overall only 2nd to a real documentary.

    I'm sure eventually somebody will put together a website of "Rush mistakes" but I'm sure it'll be in the nerdy nitpicking category kind of stuff.

    Yeah, I loved that scene too. And I have seen the real Lauda making that gesture to mock somebody. It was spot on.



    PS: On a general note I was totally smitten with both of the driver wives. "13" never looked hotter in her entire career and Lauda's wife to me was the epitomy of a woman's elegance.
     
  13. Gatorrari

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    I fully agree. Having lived though that period and watched the drivers interviewed, Bruhl reminds me exactly of the way that Lauda was. Pick up a copy of one of the books that he wrote and you'll find out what made Lauda tick.

    As for Hunt punching out a journalist, I hadn't heard about that before, but I can't deny that that wouldn't have happened, because I know for a fact that he once punched out a course worker (after he parked his failed car during a race) and a policeman (after he was incorrectly denied access at a race)!
     
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    I believe this is the correct helmet for Niki in this photo taken after the accident. Lauda vetoed using this helmet in the movie as he did not want the manufacturer to get any credit.
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    Just saw the movie today at a private screening with our local car club. I liked everything about it as I remember watching F1 as I still do now. I could care less about the slight details as its more than a racing movie. Niki was/is one tough dude with incredible desire. Shame about James passing away at 45:(
     
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    +1
     
  17. Drive550PFB

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    Agree. Best racing movie I have seen.
     
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    someone asked if Lauda had input to the movie, and the answer is "yes". I think it was screenplay writer Peter Morgan's wife that knew Lauda previously, and introduced them.
     
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    Spoiler - who else besides me noticed that there was no spark plug in the cylinder when they 'filmed' the valves opening, closing, the fuel igniting, etc? Honest, in every scene of the inner cylinder, you can see the threaded hole where the spark plug should have been! Now you all have to go see it again...

    I loved the movie, even though I would have liked more racing scenes without so much shot in super-closeup. Still very well done, and it needs to be acknowledged that there was simply too much action in the real 1976 season to fit in a 2 hour movie. I thought they would have mentioned that in the Nurburgring fire, Lauda's eyelids were actually burned off, and so the only cosmetic surgery he allowed was to rebuild his eyelids so he could blink and close his eyes.

    I went to see it tonight with my wife, daughter, and two other couples from the Miata club. All the guys were long time F1 fans and knew the story, and really enjoyed it. All the ladies knew very little if any of the story, and they loved it as well. 7 thumbs up from us!

    One fictional piece was Hunt punching out the journalist - it never happened, and would not have been like Hunt at all to do something like that (according to real journalists who were involved in F1 then and knew Hunt.)
     
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    Saw this with my GF the other day. We were the first ones in the theater by about 10 minutes, and the youngest by a good 10 years. (We're both 25) We went at 7 on a Friday night, too.

    I loved it. She loved it. Her first words after the movie were "Niki Lauda is a badass..." She even did her own research before we went so she had an idea of what it was.

    Aside from the small technical and historic details, we both thought it was an excellent portrayal of what happened. The emotion was very real, and it sucked you in from the beginning. Lauda mocking the Ferrari guy was awesome. His soon to be wife not knowing who he was was priceless. If that really happened, that is one of the coolest things ever.
     
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    Box office is pretty weak... but I think we all expected that. $10m in it's first national weekend is pretty poor actually (it was only in 2 major markets last weekend).
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    Well what do you expect if they leave out all the oval races of that year? :)

    It did very well in the UK. No surprise either. And I'm sure it'll be a hit in the rest of Europe and South America.
     
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    It could be one of those movies that has strong, not great, box office performance for many weeks by word of mouth rather than blockbusters that make the bulk in opening weekend. That's what happened with the movie The Wedding Crashers...people liked it and told others and it had very strong sales for a while.

    I've already convinced a few friends to go check it out and they will in the coming weeks when they get time off. One of them, non-car guy, saw Senna and loved it and said he looks forward to Rush even though he's not an F1 fan let alone any kind of car fanatic.
     
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    I saw the movie Saturday night and thought it was one of the better movies depicting events surrounding auto racing that have been made. It told a dramatic story of what were true dramatic events, was interesting to those without a huge interest in racing and, having been at several of the events in the movie, depicted the era pretty well. Sure, some creative license was taken with some events, but this was not a documentary. The only real irritation was during the quick cuts of racing action, the footage would jump to different tracks. The race was supposed to be Watkins Glen, but they cut in vast quantities of other footage from who knows where. Most people would not be bothered by it, but it created a disconnect within the scene for me. I will likely go see it again.
     
  25. Gatorrari

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    Although the 1976 U.S. Grand Prix was overlooked in the movie, the 1975 race was not, though the brief depiction of the race, with a battle between Lauda and Hunt's Hesketh, was not accurate. But let me tell you what did happen in that race:

    Lauda led away from pole, followed closely by Fittipaldi's McLaren. For around 20 laps, they were no more than about a second apart, though Emmo made no attempt to pass. And the pair were steadily drawing away from the field at more than a second a lap.

    Around lap 20, Clay Regazzoni, who was mired in the midfield, made an unscheduled pit stop; unfortunately, I was seated a bit too far away to see what happened there, but after a short consultation, Clay was sent back out. This put him only about 5 seconds ahead of the leading duo.

    When they came up to lap him, he obviously let Lauda by immediately, but then proceeded to make his Ferrari the world's widest. When the cars came around again, Lauda had drawn away by nearly 2 seconds, and Emmo was still stuck behind Clay. The next time around, Lauda had added another 2 seconds to his lead, and Emmo was now shaking his fist as the cars came under the flagstand! This went on for another lap or two until they finally black-flagged Regazzoni.

    Clay was brought to a halt on the side of the pit entrance lane, directly across the track from where I was sitting. Burdie Martin, the clerk of the course (and a rather large man) leaned into the cockpit and began reading Clay the riot act, when a wiry guy came running up the pit lane, wildly gesticulating with his arms and obviously very agitated. It was team manager Luca di Montezemolo, and he got in Burdie's face and was obviously yelling and flailing his arms in the stereotypical Italian manner. Burdie, like a baseball umpire, merely folded his arms and listened, while Clay sat in his car watching. After about 30 seconds, Luca stormed off, feeling that he had made his point, and Burdie waved Regazzoni back into the race.

    This may have had the Ferrari faithful in stitches, but it also had ruined a great race, because by now, Lauda had over a 10 second lead on the McLaren, and it pretty much remained that way the rest of the race. Several laps after the incident, Ferrari called Clay in and retired the car, allegedly due to "handling", but no one really believes that. Some people think that Regazzoni's original pit stop was an intentional team order, to allow him to be able to subequently get in Fittipaldi's way and let Lauda get away. I'm not sure I believe that, but it certainly is possible!

    I only wish I had had an SLR with a telephoto lens instead of the awful 110-format camera that I was using, because I could have gotten that on film. I'm a bit surprised that no one else did, evidently.
     

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