I searched the archives first, but could not find this answer. What's the difference between these two (2) shades of red? A Google search gave me a couple of paint charts, but the ones which I was able to locate did not contain samples of both so to compare one to the other. Also, is it correctly spelled "Corso" or "Corsa" - I've found references to both, so it must be a common misspelling error. Thanks and Cheers - DM
I know this color was used on some early 308's :Rosso Chiaro 20.R.190 Glidden Salchi Paint. Rosso Corsa is correct.
This reference translates "rosso chiaro" as "light red" or "pale red", but it doesn't give a sample (at the bottom of the page): http://www.jb330gt.com/Colors.htm Hasn't "rosso corsa" had some different versions over the years?
Yes, I had already found that site, but as you have noted it does not show both colors so that I can compare one to the other. And, I also suspect that the "Corsa" color might have changed over the years, so that (my hypothesis) both of the aforementioned colors are now considered interchangeable. I'd like to be able to confirm this one, one way or the other, but so far no such luck! Cheers - DM
I agree, Dave. Over the years, Rosso Corsa had become lighter until it's now similar to Rosso Corsa. To me, the difference is very subtle. My Rosso Chiaro GTB takes on some interesting hues at dusk. See this thread: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72881 In this picture, my car is in the foreground. The car behind it is Rosso Corsa: Image Unavailable, Please Login
Rosso Chiaro has more of an orange shade in it than Rosso Corsa. I had my 365 BB painted the period correct Rosso Chiaro and while it looks plenty red when viewed by itself, the additional orangish tint shows when the car is parked next to a Rosso Corsa car.
The factory 206S racers in 1967 were painted "Rosso Corsa" 20R190 This color is today Rosso Chiaro? When looking at old color photos 206s standing next to P4/412P the colors match perfect.
Also, an almost endless amount of info on the 'net nowadays. Rosso Corsa 300/12 Touch Up Paint for 1996 Ferrari All Models - PaintScratch.com Rosso Chiaro 20-R-190 Touch Up Paint for 1976 Ferrari All Models - PaintScratch.com Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
It certainly looks that way but the Rossa Chiaro appears to be a tint darker. And Rossa Corsa went darker in 1997. Color Codes - Rosso Corsa Paint Cross-Reference Color Codes - Rosso Chiaro Paint Cross-Reference Color Codes - Ferrari Paint Cross-Reference . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
1967 Rosso Corsa = 20.R.190 today that paint code belongs to Rosso Chiaro! For late 60s I can not find an other Salchi number. In 1969 I was told the factory racers were painted in Fiat 120 paint (Fiat Rosso Corsa)
Eurospares lists 20.R.190 as Rosso Chiaro (1965 - mid 1969). Paint Code Another source: Scaglietti paint colors from the mid 60s. - www.tomyang.net 1969 FERRARI 365 GTB/4 'DAYTONA' BERLINETTA COMPETIZIONE - Bonhams Also: The car was finished in red, its original livery as-new having been 'Rosso Chiaro 20-R-190' and its original interior 'Nero VM 8500'. . Image Unavailable, Please Login
Just to complicate matters even further. My 84 Mondial QV has Rosso Corsa 300/06 as opposed to the usual 300/12. Any insight into the sub codes?
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/368031-rosso-scuderia-vs-rosso-corsa.html
Well, I wrote it so many times in the 308/328 sections that I am only making a résumé... The color's name "rosso corsa" on street Ferraris appeared for the first time when Glasurit took over from Glidden Salchi as the provider of paints for the street Ferraris, that is in 1980. The "300" is the in-house designator from Glasurit for their range of reds, just as "500" is for their range of blues. The "Rosso Corsa" from Glasurit has had different standards, changing in tint and/or hue about every three years: "Rosso Corsa", then "Rosso Corsa 300", then "Rosso Corsa 300/6" (1984), then "Rosso Corsa 300/9" (appeared on the 288 GTO, but in 1987 only on 328s), then "Rosso Corsa 300/12" with the 348, etc...basically, with each itteration it became a little brighter and slightly more orangey. Each is "correct" in its OEM time bracket: 300/6 is therefore correct for a 1984 car, but would not be on my 1989 328 GTB (which has 300/9) There is no such thing as a "definitive standard" for the color named "Rosso Corsa", which means "racing red": any red will do. By this I mean that an italian racing car may wear any kind of red and still be in "Rosso Corsa": the color never was precisely defined in the 1910's when it was decided that italian racing cars had to be red. Glasurit choosed to name the color proposed on street Ferraris "Rosso Corsa" to emphasis the race heritage, or because it sounded cool, but at the time it never was supposed to be the exact match of the color actually used on the racing cars, just "close enough". There is no accepted reference in a referencing system for colors and paints for "Rosso Corsa" as the "Federal Standard" in the USA, or the RAL in Germany, or the "Pantone", etc... For example, if my memory serves me well, the dark blue of the US "stars insigna" on the wings of US military aircafts is always FS 15044. Any painter anywhere needing to touch up a star orders 15044 and her you are, you have the right color. The "sea blue" camouflage color used on US Navy aircrafts from 1943 to 1955 always was 35042 if glossy, 15042 if matt: any painter anywhere using the color by its name "sea blue" knew exactly of which color he was speaking, because the color has been defined in a standard that could allow it to be exactly reproduced time and over again; usually in the US the standard that allows a color to be defined is the Munsell system. This is not the case of "Rosso Corsa", nor of any other racing color: they were never precisely defined under a specification standard. For "Rosso Corsa" there is just not one red that would be more "right" than the others: italian racing cars, and Ferraris, have used dozens of different reds along the years. For the italian racing red, actually the most frequently used red was closer to what is called today by Ferrari "rosso barchetta"; but during the sixties, with the advent of television, they lightened the period "rosso corsa" more and more, as the older (i.e, darker) red was not giving sharp results on television. And yes "Rosso Chiaro" means "light red" in English, not "clear red". The italian "Chiaro" (just as the french "clair", by the way) is the same word for "light" or "clear"; but here, it means "light", in the opposite of "dark" (which would be "scuro" in italian) Rgds
My 84 308 is a darker red, looks blood red. My 86 328 is a brighter red. 308 color sticker is gone, but the 328 states Rosso Corsa. I'll post some pics.
