Roma VS 992 turbo s

I will choose neither (Still love my 16 California T, 911.2 Targa 4 GTS and 911.2 GT3) but when does this ever stop us from commenting?

Roma

Striking design
Ferrari special factor
Engine sound (likely need an aftermarket mod)
Interior appointments (assuming you option it up)
Ferrari special factor (yes, a repeat)
Haven't seen one in person but photos are a bit close to Aston Martin's design language (IMHO)

New 992 Turbo S

Raw speed
Less "look at me" - more blend with the crowd
Bulletproof in terms of design and overall reliability
Porsche is finally upgrading the interiors (but still not an F car level of uniqueness / quality)
Engine sound is okay but REALLY needs numerous mods - my GT3 has a GMG center exhaust -- sounds like an angry chain saw when hammering. The Targa 4 GTS has the lovely Soul Sport Cats. A lot of guys go Dundon headers and other mods -- it can get really LOUD but maybe not as attractive a sound as the Ferrari.
Raw speed (yes, a repeat)

To me, these are "the factors".

Personally, I think the following are good values right now (thanks, Mr. Depreciation):

16-18 California T (esp with HS package) -- I added the Novitec tune and am now getting 625+ HP in Sport mode. Love it.
18-19 911.2's -- Amazing cars. So easy to mod. the 3.0 litre motors are safely getting Turbo S power with Tial intakes / AMS intercoolers and GTS turbos (esp on E85 gas). For about $5-6k if you own a GTS and $10-11k if you own a base 911.2 you can get 625 HP at the wheels on e85 with APR tunes. Pretty amazing bang for the buck.
18-19 GT3's -- if you want the full / raw adrenaline experience, you can get it for about $150k. You can even get a 6 speed. Not much to tune in the GT3 due to the NA engine but DAMN is it awesome with a GMG/Soul/SharkWorks center delete exhaust. OUTRAGEOUS fun for the price.

 

if you are living in the country side and that's where you drive the car mostly I would go for a Taycan Turbo S (yes not 911, there s a comparison between the two where the reviewer prefers the taycan as a fun factor)

if you live in a big city the Roma

or actually get both, they are very complimentary

 

Have you any first hand experience with the Taycan? I really don't get the hype. You can feel ALL of the 2400 kg in that tank, as it bumbles along. I have never been sick in a car, not once. The Taycan Turbo S changed that.

Back to the question at hand. I'd choose the Porto. Don't care one bit about the Roma and have a hard time even consider it a Ferrari, and the Porsche is just a 911 - boring. The Porto is a proper exotic GT and very nice.

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I enjoyed my 991 tts but I did have to mod it a bit to suit my taste. I have seen the reviews on the 992 turbo s and it sounds terrible with the GPF. Unfortunately, even though I have seen the Roma in person and sat in it, etc, I didn't get to hear it start up or drive it. I wouldn't choose one over the other without a drive. I think the Roma looks much better but Porsche probably has some good touches in the 992 redesign so I wouldn't be able to choose at this point. Need a drive.

They are both good choices at that price point IMO.

 

yes i've driven one and it's way beyond anything else (and i've driven pretty much all super cars currently on the market)....it's the next generation of automotive platforms....you can only feel the weight if you break, but other than that steering, acceleration, suspension is first class...I guess you got sick because the car was too fast for you ))

....each their own, but to me the Roma has clear design heritage to some of the most iconic F cars made in the 60s, not sure how you can claim it cannot be a Ferrari....on the other hand the Porto to me personally looks like a wanna be 812, ie a small ugly brother....the only real concern I have with the Roma is that it's on the Porto platform, as the Porto drives like box on wheels

 

why not an F8 then...if you like the 488 you ll love the F8....the drive characteristics are massively improved...I did not like the 488 but the F8 is amazing to drive...also prefer the design but that's subjective

 

have you driven the F8?....i found the 488 had quite a turbo lag...the F8 has basically none...which to me really transformed the car and made it much more dynamic and drivable as you don't need to be high up in the rev range

i've driven the 812 quite a bit and also b2b to the F8 and on track b2b to the 488...i would say the F8 makes you feel a much better driver than you are, the 812 still feels big despite rear wheel steer and not very nimble/ precise.....also the set up is a bit too soft for my taste ..if you've not driven an F8 i would highly recommend taking it out..I would have never thought i would be saying that a V8TT matches or even in parts exceeds the V12 driving experience

 

I never experienced turbo lag in my 488 or Cali T HS whereas I did in every other turbo car I have owned, that includes AMG, BMW M and Porsche Turbo Cayenne and 911. I think Ferrari did a great job with the linear acceleration profile. I think you must not have driven the 812 for very long but it takes some getting used to the length. You have to push it some in order to start getting comfortable with it but once you do, it feels much shorter and what you find is that it will corner just about as well as the 488.

 

What???

The lag of the 488 and F8 you speak of, I cannot wrap my head around. Have tested the 488 and Pista back to back for a few hours on track back in May not to mention just having fun with both cars on the road going back and forth. I found the to have the same lag, which was virtually none. Have you done back to back testing, or is the 488 lag you mention something you recall? Because that has me completely stumped and I cannot recognize a significant lag in any of them. Main difference is the response, where you can tell that the rotating assembly is lighter in the Pista. But none of them have much in terms of boost threshold lag, and actual lag on boost is zero.

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Of these two, the Roma, purely on looks and design. A much more unique car than the 911 but this cuts both ways, will also get a lot more attention than a 911.

 

Not a TTS but I drove a 4S today and it was very boring and quiet.

 

The 4S was also just not fast. I floored it multiple times. My 2016 i8 felt a noticeable amount more nippy in a straight line.