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Rolex repair question

Discussion in 'Fine Watches, Jewelry, & Clothes' started by sparta49, Mar 23, 2024.

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  1. sparta49

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    I just took my Oyster Perpetual Datejust and my wife's oyster perpetual Datejust in for Service (I haven't had them service in years) . Both were running and keeping decent time. The quote was for the Men's 1550.00 for Service , new crystal, casetube, crown and hand set. The quote for the ladies was 1400.00 for a service, date disc and trainwheel bridge. This is for genuine Rolex Parts of course. To me this seems rather high as I just had my Omega Planet Ocean XL serviced by Omega for 900.00 and they replaced the crown, all six hands, the pushers, setting lever, and a few other parts all of which were returned to me. I am also being told that Rolex want the old parts back which seem ridiculous to me as they are my parts including that gold crown. So am I being fed a line of BS or is this legit?
     
  2. SMSD

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    Where did you take it? I would only use RSC, and of those Dallas is the best.
     
  3. sparta49

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    A Jewelry Store with a Rolex Certified Watchmaker. Also I am not in Dallas so there is that.
     
  4. SMSD

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    Strongly encourage RSC and not an independent. As for not being local, they can send you a shipping kit, etc. Many, many people send to RSC that are not local.
     
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  5. SMSD

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    And yes, you will not get old parts back. ROLEX has really gotten crazy about this stuff.
     
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  6. sparta49

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    Thanks. Next to price that was my main concern. About over Rolex.
     
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    Wow, that's a bit **** isn't it.
     
  8. sparta49

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    Yeah. and stupid me I thought I bought the parts when I paid for the watches. I didn't know I only leased them until they broke and needed to be replaced.
     
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  9. ArtS

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    Why does it need a new train wheel bridge if it's running and telling reasonable time - that strikes me as odd. We haven't seen pictures but, except for maybe the crown and tube, everything listed is cosmetic. Do the watches need a true refresh or just a service - cleaning, oiling, buffing the crystal and new seals? If they need a refresh, what are they doing with the case and band.
    The cost depends on your knowledge and expectations.
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    Art S.
     
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    Yeah man, that's a crock!
     
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  11. sparta49

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    I find it hard to believe it needs a new train wheel bridge also. It was running and keeping decent time. On the mens I find it hard to believe it needs a a crastal (no scratches visable to the naked eye and over the last 20 years I have probably only worn that watch 5 times a year , it stays on a winder and I wear my omega's mostly. So I also find it odd that the crown and case tube are worn out from being pulled out maybe 100 times.
     
  12. ArtS

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    Since the crystal isn't glass, it can be polished - if it isn't cracked or chipped there is no mechanical reason to replace it. If they are rarely worn why is the under crystal stuff (hands, etc.) being replaced? By your description, it should only need new seals (to maintain water tightness - the seals, like weatherstripping on a car - harden over time) and a service (disassemble, clean & new oil/grease on the bearing surfaces).

    The two caveats are: 1. how your instructions were interpreted; 2. the very slim possibility that something is worn on the automatic wind assembly (assuming it's been sitting on the winder for 20 years - but if this was in need or replacement, it wouldn't be winding correctly on the winder anymore).

    With the exception of service and seals, they should able to prove to you why the other replacements are needed - it's not magic, if it looks and feels fine, it is fine. This should be the equivalent of an oil and filter change on a car, not a major service. If its truly keeping decent time, something is not adding up between your description and your jewelers.

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    Art S.
     
  13. sparta49

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    all I told them was it needed a clean, oil and adjustment but was keeping time. I had the crystal polished often (yearly) between 91 and 98 so maybe they feel it is thin or maybe there are hairline cracks I can’t see. The crown always felt fine when I set it.


     
  14. SMSD

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    Has it been serviced in the last 20 years?
     
  15. sparta49

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    Yes. In 2007.
     
  16. ArtS

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    At the end of the day, they are your watches. If you want then to have that 'fresh, new feel' then that is what you are getting (I'm assuming they'll freshen up the case and band while they're at it. If done right, the watches should look fresh and new and may make you enjoy them more.

    If value is what is important, in today's market, anything beyond the service and seals causes a loss in value - original is fashionable. However, it may not be your style.

    I remain bothered by the bridge replacement. Personally, I'd get a second opinion for the whole job from a reputable independent or another Rolex shop.

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
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  17. sparta49

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    I authorized the repairand called back within twenty minutes after they told me they wouldn’t give back the old parts to tell them to hold off and was told “we already started”. It’s a $2,000 lesson at this point. I will say this though, I was going to get a Deep Sea this year but I probably will stick with Omega and never buy another Rolex again.
     
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  18. ArtS

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    That is a dishonest vendor. They could have billed you for an hour to unwind the parts orders, etc. Sorry to hear.
     
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    UPDATE. The watches were returned to me April 23. Both looked new. Interestingly, both watches have the same blue vignette diamond dial and both were purchased from authorized Rolex dealers. Mine at Bailey Banks and Biddle at the Houston Galleria in 1991 and my wifes at Adler's in New Orleans in 1996. THe watchmaker neted only on hers that the dial was not a genuine Rolex Dial. Anyway all was good, I still felt like I paid double what I should have but the watches looked new and ran fine. Mine went back on the watch winder (worn 3 times since then for a total of about 18 hours) hers went back to daily use in an office environment (same one for the last 17 years). On June 1st she gives me her watch and says it stopped working on the 28th of May. I shook the watch and could hear the rotor on the automatic works making a clunk clunk sound. I heard that sound on two other watches previously and they both needed mainsprings. I returned it to the jeweler and was told yesterday that it was "heavily magnetized" and would be ready at the end of the week. I find that extremely hard to believe, along with the initial repair parts list , and the dial issue. What do you guys think ? Does that sound like a busted main spring or a magnetized watch?
     
  20. ArtS

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    My prior opinion stands. The magnetization would only alter timekeeping (assuming the hairspring is of a type that can be magnetized). The clunk clunk sound suggests the automatic works are loose or have a bad bearing. When you manually wound the watch, did it run?

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
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  21. sparta49

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    No. It did not.
     

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