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  1. leopard881

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    Some 360 Challenge race cars are road registered. It would be interesting to know more about them. How many of them are actually on the roads in 2016, and where?
    Let's list the country, the color of the car, as well as other information e.g. VIN, if known:

    Switzerland: 1 black (converted to GT specifications), 1 red
    Austria: 1 (color unknown)
     
  2. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Good idea with the thread ;-)

    We have one her un Austria, try to get a picture.

    Bit I think, real there was no, never a 360 CH road legal. Or?
     
  3. leopard881

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    updated list road registered 360 Challenge race cars by country:

    Austria: 1 (color unknown); reported by Ferrari308Vetro
    Netherlands: 1 (VIN: 136527); reported by tomgt)
    Switzerland: 1 black (converted to GT specifications), 1 red; reported by leopard881

    thanks for keeping posting!
     
  4. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    They never were road legal and I think if its legal in one country it means nothing in the other country
     
  5. tomgt

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    when a car is road legal in one EU country it is legal in every EU country
    (this is what our Vehicle registration authorities told us here in Netherlands)
    That is why some race cars go to NL or UK, get papers, stay here for a year and exported again.
     
  6. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    At tomgt, no its not ;-)
     
  7. tomgt

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    read EU rules on importing/exporting cars
    Every citizen in Europe can take his/her car with him/her to an other EU country.
    Only some minor changes are possible: claxon, exhaust for example and hand brake needed (also needed when you want to register a car here in NL)
    You know we are Dutch and different lol
     
  8. leopard881

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    updated list road registered 360 Challenge race cars by country:

    Austria: 1 (color unknown); reported by Ferrari308Vetro
    Denmark: 1 blue; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47K4Bs-7rbU
    Netherlands: 1 (VIN: 136527); reported by tomgt)
    Switzerland: 1 black (converted to GT specifications), 1 red; reported by leopard881

    thanks for keeping posting!
     
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  11. leopard881

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    Great pictures! Marvellous car!
     
  12. Schatten

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    I've seen one here in the US, however upon closer look, the reg sticker was for a Chevy SUV.
     
  13. JH

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    The blue on in Denmark is a normal 360 Modena, owned by Mads Christensen.
     
  14. JH

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    Hi Leopard. Try going here Nummerplade Tjek! - Synsrapport, restgæld, stelnummer og km tal and enter the plate: ak55421

    It will tell you that the car is now registered under a new plate; AU22251 <- If you press that link, it goes to the register in Denmark, where it's registered today.

    It is indeed just a conversion.
     
  15. leopard881

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    Hi JH,

    thanks for your update - that is very interesting! Your Danish insider knowlegde leads us to the SN of the blue Danish 360CH: ZFFYR51B000116607
    The SN can also be found by an older post: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144007241-post11.html

    SN 116607 is definitely belonging to a 360 Challenge according to F-registry.
    F-registry lists: 99 Red/Nero then Blue/Nero

    As I've emailed to you, I would have been very much astonished to see a standard Modena that much converted towards a Challenge! At the moment their values are not yet at levels where such fakes are to be expected &#9786;
     
  16. Marius

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    If you´re able to get a 360 Challenge road registered in Germany, you´ll be allowed to drive it in any country you want to go to BUT still on german reg-plates. I live in in Germany & Belgium and do own two cars which are completely road legal in Germany but impossible to be road registered in Belgium. But still I can drive them in Belgium on german numberplates.
     
  17. JH

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    I will guarantee 100% this is a standard Modena, as I have seen it before Mads Christensen converted it some years ago now. I will find the Pictures.
     
  18. JH

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  19. Moc78

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    Even to the point of having the two fuel fillers in the c pillar? That does seem like a lot of effort! I imagine the entire rear quarter panels were replaced as well to do this?
     
  20. leopard881

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    sorry, I don't get the point? What shall this red 360 Modena prove us?

    SN 116607 is an original Challenge according to F-registry.
    I don’t however understand the output of your miraculous Danish webpage:
    Nummerplade Tjek! - Synsrapport, restgæld, stelnummer og km tal
    Both, the Blue car (Challenge, first number plate AK55421) and the Red car (Modena, first number plate ZKK 46549) are now indicated to be registered under the same numberplate AU22251.
    Is it possible in Denmark to have two cars registered on one number plate? In Switzerland, this is possible.
    There is still more evidence for the Blue 360 being a Challenge, than being a conversion.
     
  21. JH

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    My point is, that it is the same car. No, 2 Cars Cannot be registered om the same plate. This car was originally a 360 Modena. The old photo clearly shows that, along with its registration. The website is directly linked to the Danish dmv. The plates follow the vin, so all old registrations Will direct you to the newest registration of that car, which is AU22251
     
  22. SoCal1

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    This a revolving serial number car? Seen many of those over the years.

    :)
     
  23. JH

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    This is a 360 Modena, converted. The car has been a known car in Denmark for many years. Goddamnit :)
     
  24. SoCal1

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    Are you sure?????? LOL ;)
     
  25. leopard881

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    #25 leopard881, Apr 7, 2016
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    Would you then say that F-registry (https://www.f-register.com/about-us) is wrong in saying the SN 116607 is a 360 Challenge? why would the SN of a listed Challenge car have been inserted into a Modena upon conversion? The other way around might be more logic...

    PS: Ferrari - Forum du Cavallino - the serial number seems to be 116607.

    In summary, JH would say that F-registry is wrong. Ok, I'll ask them whether their listing is erroneous.
     

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