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Revuelto versus SF90

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  1. Thecadster

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    I get that the SF90, despite being several years older, is faster than the new Revuelto and will do much better laps times, but I find myself oddly intrigued by the new Lamborghini. My friend just came over to my house in his long awaited (he was at the NYC unveiling in Dec 2022 and placed his order for a preconfigured example then) new Revuelto and it’s extraordinary. His spec is Viola Pasifae with full carbon. While the SF90 will drive better, there’s no denying the theater the Revuelto brings with it. It looks the part, and the V12 revs to 9500. There’s a ton to like about the car.

    I’ve been casually in market for a SF90 this year, more or less waiting for a perfect spec at, or near, the bottom of the market, but now I might go with a Revuelto (I’m far enough down the list that my car wouldn’t come for 18 months).

    Ultimately, I wonder how the market might receive the Revuelto over the course of the next several years? Will it be accepted or rejected? Might it be like the SF90, loved by a cult grouping of owners, but not universally loved? Of course, at the $700+ initial price point, it will definitely not hold value in the secondary market. Anyone else plan on adding a Revuelto to the garage?
     
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  2. JTSE30

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    Look at what Audi/VW/Winkelmann do...

    overbuild, dozen or more variations over its model lifetime, and the first of the series are always the least loved (outside of the first years of the Murcielago, which are pre-Winkelmann, those are all 6 speed but, when new, had some very serious problem such as wheels falling off)

    Remember the first promise to build no more than 4000 Aventadors...promise broken, so, yeah, holding value is not in the interest of VW/Audi(i.e. Lamborghini)
    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/lambo-set-4000-aventadors

    There have been no promises and there will not be.

    The biggest impediment to the build-out of the Revuelto is its complexity and that they have to be partially disassembled to be shipped to USA (to protect the container ship from being the next Felicity Ace) which results in numerous faults on reassembly..if not perfect that is...If you take delivery in EU you do not have that additional complexity to be concerned with...

    So, production will be slow for a few years and then pick up, so, if you want a fleeting affair you should be ok on depreciation, except, for the engine failures starting to occur...

    If I had any interest, I would suggest waiting 2 more years (maybe 3) for bugs and shipping issues to be worked out..and also to see what other issues show up (like a windshield replacement is around $45K USD) and then decide....
     
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  3. Thecadster

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    Wait…$45,000 windshield?
     
  4. JTSE30

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    From here:

    (you will need to prepend facebook dot com and then this the remainder of the link)
    yiannimize/videos/35000-to-fix-my-lamborghini-revuelto-windscreen/3768788073371823/

    But, just now, I checked, it is shown below as being $4427 (on backorder), that's without labor, so, honestly, not sure why the video about says 35K (GBP which is about 45K USD)

    https://www.eurospares.com/Lamborghini/Revuelto/Revuelto_Coupe_(2024)/PartDiagrams/845_01_00/WINDOW_GLASSES?ref=011
     
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  5. ForeverNA

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    Yup! Ordered, specced, next q2-3 delivery!

    I test drove it back to back with SF90. That glorious NA V12 engine and its sounds with its handling and the steering wheel designs with 4 knobs at 4 corners, very instinctively designed, are just so much better than the haptic control of SF90.

    The car is heavier than SF90 for sure, but during acceleration I don't feel the difference. During hard brake, may be a bit but the braking of the R is phenomenal as well, giving me all the confidence there is.

    I love it!
     
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    LOL
     
  7. Fortis

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    My Revuelto is on the boat on its way to me, I hope for September/October delivery, I will provide some feedback when the car gets here, I have the SF90 and I will be able to drive them back to back, similar conditions, similar roads etc. that will give me a much better idea on the differences between the two.

    So far I have only experienced the Revuelto on the track at Imola and to me it was phenomenal to drive, it feels a little bit more planted than the SF90 at speed, I would say because it is a bit heavier, possibly not as fast as the SF90 (on the track) but certainly both of them are very fast (fast enough), the way they deliver power felt quite different with a bit more immediacy in the SF90, it obviously sounds a lot better than the SF90 due to its NA V12, when compared with the car it replaces (if you have any experience with that) it is not as violent as the Aventador and the vibrations through the cabin, theater and drama aren't there as they were in the Aventador, it is a lot more matured and civilised, overall a fantastic package considering that you get a mid engined V12 with a 1000HP.

    The cars we were driving had zero issues on track and they were driven hard and passed around nonstop from driver to driver.

    The SF90 and the Revuelto share almost the same metrics but have two very distinct personalities, they are both great in their own way and it comes down to what you enjoy most, having both is ideal because what they say about variety I tend to agree with but if you can only have one then you should have an extended test drive of both if you can and then make the call, you can not go wrong with either, you will have a lot of fun in both.
     
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  8. Gh21631

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    While I agree that Lamborghini pumps out variation after variation of a a model the Aventadors have held their values pretty well. Look at the SV, SVJ, etc. Even the std models have held well.

    The Revuelto is priced so high from the start I'm not sure how it will do but I doubt it drops below the last A Aventadors.

    Mine will be here next summer. Best part, no dealer BS.
     
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  9. Jo Sta7

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    My buddy just got the same car, more or less. Viola Pasifae with full carbon. Honestly, my vote would be neither car. But for the price. 100% SF90.
     
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    Pre-owned SF980 for sure if looking at costs.
     
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  11. Jo Sta7

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    The Rev is just way too expensive. $750k+ after taxes. Yikes. No way.
     
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  12. Gh21631

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    I know but I am committed. Better be great. :)
     
  13. Jo Sta7

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    Mo Money Mo Problems anyway...
     
  14. Thecadster

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    Have you seen his car? Driven in it? I know it’s a steep price point, but it makes my heart flutter.
     
  15. Jo Sta7

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    Oh I did both amigo.
     
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  16. ForeverNA

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    Mine without tax is 690.
     
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  17. Gh21631

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    I did the full exterior in matte carbon so I'm about 730k.
     

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    Lambo sticking with V12 rear engine is nice, Ferrari went V8 sadly with lil sounds high performance.
    Plus their Icona cars are more special. Ferrari made a wise choice as did Lambo for their brands and performance metrics. Very few Ferrari / Lambo guys will buy both new,
    Lambo is a great brand and no one makes faster looking / sounding cars that are slower in reality :) Love the brand - in the past they weren't made for Americans vs Italian shorter smaller frames. Look forward to hearing owners reviews - honestly for 300k more I would get a Senna or for less 765LT / SF90 but that's due in large part to headroom and drivers sight. Great cars for their customers - Lambo nailed it for their customers on their new models.
     
  19. Gh21631

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    I have a 765 which is a keeper for me. Maybe, just maybe I pick up a preowned SF90 or 296 depending on what they give me on a couple Challenge cars.
     
  20. Cocoloco

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    Sold my 765LT Spider - issued by the factory #OOO all carbon - shown in Monterey. sellers remorse
    Challenge cars - would love 355CH or 360CH - sold my 360CH again sellers remorse
     
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  21. ForeverNA

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    Super nice! I was under the assumption that the outside carbon package is about 100k right?

    Mine is matte black, simple outside with shiny black package on the plastics but go all out inside with ad persona. What seat did you pick?
     
  22. Gh21631

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    This is gonna seem ignorant but I have no idea on the option pricing, I just spec'd what I wanted. Balloon white and lots of carbon. I saw a Murci a while ago and it stuck in my head so I'm trying to recreate it with this car.
     
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  23. Thecadster

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    That’s the right way to do it. Get what you want…full send.
     
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    Just went back and add the upper and lower exterior carbon package as well as the wing in carbon. Since my car is matte black, decided to skip the roof carbon. Now it's 740 from 690. Worth it. Should have a nice contrast with shiny carbon with matte black paint.
     
  25. Gh21631

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    I was told I'm in the 730 range as well but haven't see the breakdown
     
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