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Resistor vs. non-resistor

Discussion in '308/328' started by Steve King, Sep 27, 2008.

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  1. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

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    I've gone through a few searches to see if there is a general concensus on spark plug extenders. It looks like the early cars (carb models) use the red resistor type extenders and the FI cars are using the black non-resistor extenders. I have also seen some comments that the black non-resistor types should be used on the carb cars . So I am narrowing it down here . I presently have the OEM (looks red/maroon) type extenders and with home made resistor (carbon type , bulk wires) wires that I made up years ago after I got the car. So I picked up a set of Kingsborn wires on ebay which are a resistor type sprial wound. I am now going to get a set of Kingsborn extenders . So my decision is resistor or non-resistor. Oh is the downside of the non-resistor radio noise? 77 carb model thanks
     
  2. GeoMetry

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  3. f355spider

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    If you get noise through the radio, then switch to resistor spark plugs. I did that on my 78 308GTS as I was getting interference on my FRS radio, used on Ferrari Club drives. Fixed! :) NGK BPR6ES
     
  4. Artvonne

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    My understanding is early standard points ignition cars use "black" (zero resistance) extenders, all later electronic ignition cars use red (resistance) extenders.
     
  5. ferrari.ace

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    Resistor ends + non resistor plugs = OK

    Non resistor ends + resistor plugs = OK

    Resistor plug + resistor end = too much resistance (bad)

    Non resistor plug + non resistor end = too much RF interference (bad)
     
  6. Artvonne

    Artvonne F1 Veteran

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    The early cars left the factory with non resistor plugs + non resistor ends + solic core wires, and no one complained about RF noise. The problem isnt with the car, the problem is modern radios that are no longer made to deal with RF noise because modern cars electrical systems are better filtered. I have an 83 Mercedes with electronic ignition etc., I havnt found any radio yet that wont bring out alternator and electric motor whine. I solved the problem by installing capacitors on the alternator and radio power wire, and putting a static ground lead on the radio. I could probably kill the faint wiper motor noise by adding a capacitor at the motor.

    There is probably nothing that creates more RF noise than an aircraft magneto ignition. But aircraft have the added problem of communication and navigation radios that must operate in a RF quiet environment. They didnt solve the problem by adding resistance to the ignition system that would reduced its efficiency, they solved the problem by shielding the various electrical systems as well as through disipation of static energy.
     
  7. Mark456M

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  8. Paul_308

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    My injection engine is a 'crossover' 1980 with red ignition plumbing. Steve has asked a good question and I don't see any hard answers.

    I would ?assume? the best combination is a car without radio and without resistors. Further ?assume? that to use a radio and for no other reason than rf noise reduction, one must add resistor wire or resistor extenders or resistor plugs or some combination.

    How does the engine suffer with too many resistance items added? Poor spark=lost hp under heavy load/rpm?

    Since I've considered replacement of ignition items, I'm now somewhat confused about the best course.
     
  9. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    What is the resistance across the resistored extender?

    I would like to ohm mine out to see if they're all the same or

    if any of them need replacing. Thanks.
     
  10. robertgarven

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    The early cars left the factory with non resistor plugs + non resistor ends + solic core wires, and no one complained about RF noise.

    This is what I am running and it works great. I dont listen to the radio!
     

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