Repro Testa Rossas body and chassis

The Ferrari v. McBurney case even made my Copyright & Trademark text book in law school. Made for much more interesting reading that week of school...

 

i don't think the status of the artisans is a secret, it is just kept secret for their protection. if you serach other threads regarding these types of cars, you will find cars being restored in the shops that are well known cars owned by well known people. based on that, i would have to believe that their secrecy isn't that hard to uncover

 

thanks for that wayne, its interesting reading - especially the point about the name

13 yrs after producction may be a bit too soon. but that bit about recognition was pitiful
i mean if you were going to produce a replica then
i. you would want it to be a well known type of car
ii. it would have to look the same or theres no point

i couldnt see that sort of case working here in the uk - i dont want to criticise the US excessively but it does appear to outsdiers that you have a very litigation happy culture over there

do you think that the outcome would likey be the same today ? even when you would have to take into consideration that daytonas arent really driven extensively, it wouldnt likely be so recognised, repairs these days would be carried out by a specialist etc etc

 

I think they were made by/for Ton Piron, a Belgian collector (no big collection but including a very nice Lusso) who wanted a GTO but couldn't afford the real thing. He did a lot of work himself. He was on Belgian television a long time ago (early nineties?) but I seem to recognize the replica and buildings. There has been little progression over the years looking at the body!

 

250GTOs on 2+2 chassis in FL

250GTO, P Car. TR61 in Italy

All alluminum, tube frame, very correct looking, except some motor details, ie 330 carbs dont look like P1 carbs. Block, heads indistingusable from real thing.

 

I found this to be a very interesting thread, very interesting ideas raised. I have seen several high quality 250 TR and 250 GTO replicas over the years. All of these cars were built on donor chassis (330 GT/ 250 GTE etc), hence they are Ferrari chassis and running gear, so I think when all is said and done, they are real Ferraris, just not the ones they appear to be. I think if somebody were to start producing their own 430/599 etc., the legal hand of Ferrari Spa. would come down hard and heavy. One of the previous posters referred to a replica GTO maker in France rhat ran afoul with the law. I believe he is referring to the Favre cars, which as I recall were made in Switzerland or France in the mid 1980's. The reason for the legal action in the case was that Mr. Favre was producing exact replica GTO's, and representing them ( I believe with Original GTO serial numbers) as original GTO's. Hence in this case, it was not copy right infringement, but rather fraud

 

keep in mind, most of the guys building these, did so before, way back when. they know what is required and where to find it. i would bet dollars to donuts that they are made with wooden bucks, like they were back then. where do they get the bucks? they make them, just like they did before

 

I doubt that the Ferraris from that era were even that exact from one to the next right out of the factory.

 

keep in mind, these were race cars. i doubt very seriously, anyone was that concerned about geometry.

many of the originals have been rebodied over the years. most of which have been rebodied many times over. where do you think those shapes come from? i would be willing to bet the same body bucks

 

I do not believe this statement to be correct. Everybody knows the chassis numbers of the original GTO's, nobody would copy them.

I believe all his cars were 2+2's cut up and remade as GTO's but were so identical (other than gearbox?) they upset Ferrari.
Pete

 

didnt they use copies of the gearbox too ?

iirc he certainly wasnt trying to represent his cars as the real deal.

 

Without detailing where or when this is a bodybuck for a 300 SL that was totally constructed from data gleaned from a scale model.
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Anyone know what a complete 330 core motor sells for?

 

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I was looking at some old Cavallino magazines last night and found an ad in Cavallino #42 Jan 88.page 58. It was a company called Hi tech Red Heads that made repr body shells.

 

Not sure of the material used. The photo shows a truck with 3 body's on it.

 

Ive read that scale models do not duplicate the proportions correctly. They have to be altered to look right when scaled down. I dont know the technical reasons for this phenomena but if a full blown car was made from a scale model then it wont be right.

 

So how do you guys think that a specialty metal fabrication shop re-builds these cars after an accident. Do they just take an educated guess? I saw a 250 Cab last year at a restoration shop that had been crushed. It was about 24" high. How do you think they rebuilt it?

 

With a magic wand? Talent most likely and the eye for it, access to another car perhaps?